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Ex husband worth a million and offered me only £7000 financial claim

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AmyJahabee · 16/01/2024 13:57

Hi all,

I made a financial claim against my ex husband and he offered me £5000 and he is worth almost a million. Is this suppose to be a joke.

we were married for 7 years I was not working at the time so he pay for everything whilst I look after the house, no children involved in the marriage. Is that all I get because I didn’t contribute financially? It’s been 3years since the divorce, he has put in so much lies about me towards his statement. I’m going to decline the offer.

can I just decline or ask for a reasonable amount?

OP posts:
CoasttoCoastlines · 16/01/2024 16:45

No, I haven't.
I was raised in a time where women weren't allowed to wear a pair of trousers, wear a miniskirt, hold their own documents , walk on the street unaccompanied or go for a jog.
Even the wives of those men had rights, they wouldn't be let down like this.

This was never in the UK unless you are 200 years old @NannyAnabela

NonPlayerCharacter · 16/01/2024 16:45

AnneValentine · 16/01/2024 16:43

It literally is not. As a country we do not have spousal maintenance as a rule.

The starting point where there are no children is put parties back to where they started, there would potentially be a claim for post marital assets but she didn’t work - student? - so even then it’s unlikely. That offer sounds like one with advice that’s basically I would spend this on legal fees so may as well offer it.

In order to qualify she would need to demonstrate history of independence, etc etc. I married a rich guy and now I want some money won’t cut it.

prh47bridge is a lawyer. You aren't. You may not like the law but that doesn't stop it from being what it is. And she didn't mention spousal maintenance.

ConsuelaHammock · 16/01/2024 16:48

You need to speak to a solicitor! How much was he worth when you met?

Frasers · 16/01/2024 16:48

Op. As said it changes things when it’s a relatively short marriage. Can I ask, how is the 1m broken down, how much of that is house and pension? And how much did he have before the marriage, ie what is rhe difference in value in 7 years.

ive no doubt you’re entitled to more than being offered, but you need to provide more detail here.

kisstheblarney · 16/01/2024 16:49

NannyAnabela · 16/01/2024 16:25

You need to get legal advice. Start by Citizen's Advice Bureau.
This is the number for England: 0800 144 8848
If you can't afford legal advice you will should have access to free legal action.

His offer is not a joke, it is beyond it. It is an insult of the highest order.

I don't know the Law of the UK, but where I originally come from you are entitled to 50% of the wealth of the couple when you divorce.
Even here in the UK people have rights.

I would say get legal information, but I would be inclined not to accept those £7000 - they are nothing after all, as that could stop you to from receiving your fair amount down the line - but this is my opinion, not legally informed.

I would recomend that you pop over to Youtube, to HG Tudors channel and check if you think that your ex is a narcissist. You have said two things that raise the flag for me. If he is, it is a totally different kettle of fish that you are dealing with, you must gather strenth! And that would totally justify your position now.

You are lucky there are no children - makes the matter much simpler.

You have given you 7 years of your like to be a home maker, to be his wife.
You have given up your financial and personal independance, your professional status, you trusted him to earn the money, to look after your family's patrimony. He let you down badly. You are due a suitable divorce settlement, and is not £7000 - that is ridiculous beyond measure. He would pay more than that in two months for a nanny's wage if he had children. Let us not mention the private schools fees.

I have read some very dim comments regarding why you didn't work.
You don't have to work, some couples chose to have a stay at home wife.
People who don't understand that are just plain stupid.

Gather yourself together, fight for your rights, you were not his prostitue nor his slave - and he would pay a lot more for the services of a prostitute!

My mother has never worked, she is a stay at home wife. It doesn't make her lazy or stupid. She has been a very kind and generous person who dedicated her life to make the happiness and comfort of others.

Look up for charities and information on getting support:

https://www.money.co.uk/guides/how-to-get-a-fair-financial-divorce-settlement

Good Luck,
You seem to have lost a lously husband. It will only get better from now!

Edited

Your mother was a mother not a stay at home wife!

Anyway OP is kidding herself she's homing to get more!

QueenCamilla · 16/01/2024 16:49

Net worth... Does it involve a property he had before the marriage? A business maybe? A private pension? Some assets are not exactly liquid. It's quite different being wealthy and cash-rich vs. all money tied up in a run down country house. What about debt?

The courts will not permit a completely "unfair" financial settlement in divorce so that will be an indicator too. Though I'm not sure if that happens only when children are involved.

Whatkindofworld · 16/01/2024 16:50

It's not about what people on Mumsnet think you deserve its what you are legally entitled to. A solicitor will help negotiate that. I assume it will be a lot more that £5000. It is not just a salary that contributes to a marriage. You really need help with this.

Frasers · 16/01/2024 16:50

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Wow that’s awful,is it even allowed to attack ans abuse people like this ?

kisstheblarney · 16/01/2024 16:52

@NonPlayerCharacter a warning for you, @prh47bridge says she's a lawyer, this is an internet forum with anonymous people on it.

prh47bridge · 16/01/2024 16:52

Nonamesleft1 · 16/01/2024 16:43

In this kind of scenario what would be considered “fair”?

say he’s got a bog standard 3 bed in zone2, which could easily be where his “worth” of 1m+ is, could he be forced to sell to pay her half? Would it be different if the 1m was from investments pre marriage?

Yes, he could be forced to sell if that is the only way to give her a fair settlement. No, it wouldn't be any different if the £1m was from investments pre-marriage. If it had been a short marriage (generally classed as 5 years or less) it would be different. The courts would then care about where the assets came from and would try to put the parties broadly back in the position they were before marriage. For a marriage of this length, whether assets were acquired pre- or post-marriage has little effect on the settlement.

As for what would be considered fair, we don't have enough information to say. The starting point is always a 50/50 split. The courts then look at things like the earning capacity and other financial resources available to each party (the party with the lower earning capacity is likely to get more of the assets), the financial needs of each party and a number of other factors such as age and any disabilities.

Whatkindofworld · 16/01/2024 16:52

Also if that's your real name. Please change it for this site.

Redcar78 · 16/01/2024 16:53

See a lawyer, you should get half 🤷‍♀️

hogmanayhoolie · 16/01/2024 16:55

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Are you feeling ok

What does a factory have to do with anything?

Frasers · 16/01/2024 16:55

The starting point is always a 50/50 split

nit for a short marriage, seldom would she be entitled to what he had before he married her, it would be 50/50 of what came into the marriage after the marriage.

amd she needs to be clear how did she arrive at rhe 1 million mark, home, pension etc. this could be the guy has 500k in a pension pot so she thinks he’s worth that.

prh47bridge · 16/01/2024 16:56

AnneValentine · 16/01/2024 16:43

It literally is not. As a country we do not have spousal maintenance as a rule.

The starting point where there are no children is put parties back to where they started, there would potentially be a claim for post marital assets but she didn’t work - student? - so even then it’s unlikely. That offer sounds like one with advice that’s basically I would spend this on legal fees so may as well offer it.

In order to qualify she would need to demonstrate history of independence, etc etc. I married a rich guy and now I want some money won’t cut it.

It literally is. You clearly have no idea of the law.

As a country, we prefer clean splits to spousal maintenance. The party with the lower earnings capacity gets a larger share of the assets instead of maintenance. We still do order maintenance where there is a big imbalance in earnings capacity but insufficient assets to compensate.

The starting point where there are no children is a 50/50 split. We only put parties back where they started if it was a short marriage (5 years or less).

No history of independence is needed.

How many spouses have you represented in divorce proceedings?

LanaL · 16/01/2024 16:57

If there were no children and you didn’t stop work so that his career could progress then I don’t know why you would be entitled to any of his money ? If you had stayed home to take care of the children so he could work then yes of course , the same would apply if you had paid towards the upkeep of the house , but if you haven’t and you just didn’t work or contribute throughout the marriage why would you be entitled to anything ?

Have you missed anything important out of this post ? Because honestly it sounds like you married someone rich , had 7 years of not having to work or having to contribute anything financially . It would be decent of him to offer you something so you can start a life but if it’s his money and he has earnt or inherited it and you did nothing to help him do that then really, you aren’t owed anything and I would take the £7000 and be grateful

prh47bridge · 16/01/2024 16:57

Frasers · 16/01/2024 16:44

At 7 years it isn’t considered a long marriage so likely a judge will say you both keep what you had before the marriage, and split what came into the marriage during the marriage only. It’s really not as simple as start at 50 50 when it’s a relatively short marriage.

Yes, it is considered a long marriage. In general, a short marriage is 5 years or less.

hogmanayhoolie · 16/01/2024 16:58

OP. If you've been divorced for 3 years and are working why do you need his money?

AnneValentine · 16/01/2024 17:01

NonPlayerCharacter · 16/01/2024 16:45

prh47bridge is a lawyer. You aren't. You may not like the law but that doesn't stop it from being what it is. And she didn't mention spousal maintenance.

Then she should know that based on the information that’s been provided she shouldn’t be giving advice.

And she is wrong - the starting point is not 50/50 so she’s also a bad lawyer. Pre marital assets do not form part of a settlement as a starting point.

SanctuaryCity · 16/01/2024 17:01

Threads like these are exactly why I’ll be recommending to both my children never to get married if they’re in the stronger financial position and I will never remarry. The thought of giving half my assets away to someone who has contributed nothing financially and not even has the excuse that they are staying home to raise children is bonkers.

NannyAnabela · 16/01/2024 17:02

Another bright spark here, are you?
I am in my 50s. You will note by my name and when I have said "where I originally came from" that I am not british.

You need to speak with you mother and grandmother if you think one would need to go back 200 years for things to be experience those events.

I am talking about the 70's, in Europe, bright spark!

You will also note that I am a nanny, you can see my name = Nanny Anabela.
I worked in the UK in 1990's.
The grandmother was a stay at home Mum, didn't work. I have never heard anyone asking her why she didn't work - it was obvious, she was married and was a stay at home wife - like nearly all women.
Her daughter - in the late 80's - got married and stop working before getting married. Diana, Princess of Wales generation, also Sarah, Duchess of York.
In the 1990's, in the UK, women would study, get an education and work until they get married. Then they would becomes wives and mothers. Some worked part time for peanuts.

Today, in 2024, there are many wives who stop working when they have chidren and are stay at home mums.

It looks like you haven't spent much time thinking or reading about how life was a couple of decades ago, or even now for that matter, as there are many couples choosing to have a stay at home wife - children or no children.
Maybe you should.

WagWoofWalkMeeoow · 16/01/2024 17:02

And. Clearly 'too busy' to post

Appleofmyeye2023 · 16/01/2024 17:03

AmyJahabee · 16/01/2024 14:04

does anyone have any directions about solicitors I just can’t think straight.

FIRST, before you get yourself heavily involved in solicitor that cost you £200+ per hour for every second they’re thinking about your case…head over to divorce board. You’ll get way more sensible advice there

on that board header is a link to ADVICE NOW . That provides guide to tell you everything you need to know about divorce process. Tells you what you need solicitor for, what you don’t and what task you may want to use one for

ADVICE NOW will explain you cannot agree to anything before you’ve BOTH done a legal financial declaration. That includes income, businesses, pensions, savings, investments, inheritance etc. EVERYTHING. Until he’s done thst you agree to nothing.

ADVICE NOW explains the law of “fair settlement” with respect to future needs . You need to read that to understand how it applies to you and exh . Only you will know this. There are 10 or so criteria that can apply. Settlements do not start with 50:50 , but they do start with ensuring are both fairly provided for with the joint assets belonging to him or you or both .

Read these. Don’t do anything or agree to anything until you’ve got your head around them. Then head over to divorce board for further advice if needed

ADVICE NOW are a charity, they also provide a list of solicitor willing to work on specific tasks you need at a fair rate. We used them and they were very good. You may also qualify for some legal aid to help with court cost. But avoid using solicitors where possible accept for thos3 tasks outlined in ADVICE NOW

ADVICE NOW are for ngliwh and Welsh law. Scotland slightly different but assume there’s a similar charity there, if you search

bobomomo · 16/01/2024 17:03

@prh47bridge

But for short marriages (under 1 years) especially with no children they take into consideration assets before the relationship too. Whilst a fair and final settlement should be reached (spousal maintenance is rare in the U.K. and tends to be time limited and only in specific circumstances) walking away with 50% which is implied by some is not the law.

A solicitor can write a letter to him with a proposal for a financial order (I'm presuming this wasn't done at the time of divorce, if it was there's nothing more can be done) and proceed from there

whiteshutters · 16/01/2024 17:04

In the 1990's, in the UK, women would study, get an education and work until they get married. Then they would becomes wives and mothers. Some worked part time for peanuts.

What a load of nonsense.