To ask to be temporarily rehoused whilst new kitchen installed?

[SENwoes]

I will preface this by saying I KNOW I’m very lucky to have a HA house, and I KNOW I’m very lucky to be getting a brand new kitchen for free.

So as above, I have work commencing on 22nd January to rip out the old kitchen and replace it. I don’t have a choice in this, according to the documents, I am unable to say no it’s fine, I’ll keep the old one. I’ve been told the works will take 2 weeks, as it also involves taking up the tiled floor and replacing it with lino.

It’s just dawning on me what a nightmare this will be. I have to completely empty the kitchen obviously, but there’s not really anywhere to put the stuff, it’s a very small house (just living room leading to kitchen/diner downstairs). The big appliances will go outside in the back yard apparently, but everything else will have to be boxed up and kept somewhere. I’ll have no cooking or washing up facilities, and no way of washing or drying clothes.

That’s all pretty standard I know, but my main concern is that I have a disability (CFS) and also both DC are diagnosed with ASD and currently in the house all the time as neither in education. We will essentially be trapped in our bedrooms for 2 weeks as we won’t be able to move in the front room as realistically that’s the only place everything from the kitchen can go. I need to rest…a lot, and the works will be noisy, which will also affect both DC as they struggle badly with loud noises and not being in a calm environment. They’ll also struggle with a team of workmen being in their space for 2 weeks, They both have completely different food aversions and neither of their limited range of foods is conducive to being able to batch cook and set the microwave up somewhere. Realistically it will mean a lot of eating out, but that’s not really affordable for 2 weeks.

Has anyone been in a similar situation and WIBU to ask the HA if there’s anything that could be done to move us while the works are going on? The only family member I could stay with is my DM but she’s a long way away and having works done on her own house which means she doesn’t have a functioning bathroom, so that’s not ideal really.

🤦🏼‍♀️ So many clueless, out of touch numpties on this thread who think they actually make sense and think they are experts about something that obviously isn’t part of their lives or else they wouldn’t spout such nonsense.

The kitchen belongs to the HA, and they are maintaining the (functional, not posh/fancy/amazing) kitchens in their properties. As a HA they have a responsibility to make sure their kitchens are safe and not falling to bits, and they probably want their properties to look more appealing too (not that the kitchens they fit are anything to die for). I live in a council house, and my landlord is now making plans to fit new kitchens in my area. My kitchen is now 12 years old and because it was so basic to begin with it is now falling to bits. I keep it clean, I keep it tidy, but it’s done with now and to put it bluntly it’s time for the council to put a new one in. That’s not me being an entitled grabby social tenant, it’s me expecting my well off landlord to ensure their tenants have a safe, decent and presentable home to live in. God forbid!

Glad you’ve come to your senses love x

I'm sorry but you just need to suck it up and deal with it I'm afraid. I would LOVE a new kitchen (private home owner) but I simply can't afford it right now. I'd happily put up with the inconvenience for a couple of weeks!

Absolutely this. Having work done at home is pretty much always a pain, but it’s part of life.

You really really wouldn't love a " brand new housing association kitchen "trust me they are very very basic ,cheapest materials and badly installed
And good for you being a private home owner 🙄🙄

I have actually seen some perfectly lovely HA kitchens, as long as its solid and not falling apart I'm happy!

Yes I am proud to be, not that I said that to Brag but you seem to have taken it that way 🙄. It was to make a point that I'd like a new kitchen...obviously..

They generally are not solid and do fall fall.apart very easily ,very cheap materials and badly installed ime
You really wouldn't wanted average housing association kitchen trust me ( regardless of what you say about having seen some "lovely ones"/

I’m actually just trying to remember if I pissed in your cornflakes this morning…nope definitely didn’t.

Are you mixing me up with someone else by any chance? “Someone who won’t let it lie”? I’ve literally responded to one shitty out of the blue post by you because I asked if a poster was being ‘ironic’.

You had a bizarre over reaction to me correctly identifying someone was making being tongue in cheek? Which she was.

The thing is I think we agree on this subject based on your other posts (that people shouldn’t bash HA tenants or expect them to grateful) so I have no idea why on Earth you’ve decided you so intensely dislike me and attack me?

OP isn’t getting one. The HA is getting one for their home against the OP’s wishes

Well i do. its hardly other peoples fault that you have the attention span of a gnat

I suspect that SH tenants are being used to keep companies and their contractors in work which is also why jobs get dragged out and last weeks or months

FFS OP is being FORCED to have this work done She does NOT want it Yet her neighbour who badly needs a new kitchen has been refused. Something is not quite right here

actually, cannot imagine having that amount of spare time, but you crack on love.

Regardless of attention span. Surely anyone with half an ounce of common sense can see that a disabled HA resident being told they have to have a new kitchen installed when they neither want nor need one (as stated in OP) is totally different to a home owner schooling to install one at a time of their choosing?

Just reading and understanding the OP's first post would be a start.
You seem to have plenty of time to be snide to a disabled woman with Sen kids who is asking for help.
Get yourself a proper hobby.

So I got a reply, it’s a definite no on helping us with accommodation but this is what they have planned - looks like it will be the full 2 weeks with no kind of functional kitchen at all. Still need to speak to them about bunging my white goods in the garden. Thinking about going away for maybe 2 or 3 nights next week but not sure which the best days to disappear would be. I have to be here on Monday evening for something so maybe Tuesday?

Good Morning,
We are looking forward to starting your kitchen replacement soon. I understand you wanted some more information about the works that are due to commence. The schedule for your Kitchen is as follows, please bear in mind that this can change due to unexpected changes that we may encounter whilst carrying out the works ?
22/01 ? Removal of Kitchen, Lift flooring and latex
23/01 ? Kitchen electrics
24/01 ? Plumbing and Plastering
25/01- 26/01 ? Kitchen Install
29/01 ? Kitchen Tiling
30/01 ? 01/02 ? Kitchen Decorating
02/02 ? Flooring, reconnecting appliances
Unfortunately *** will not be able to move you and your family whilst these works take place, if you have any issues with the above please let us know and we will organise for our Supervisor to visit you to discuss in more detail. Thank you.

That's fucking shocking @SENwoes Their schedule is pitiful. It does NOT take that long to install a working kitchen. Like I said previously, I've had mine done by a housing association, and have had basic use of it at the end of each day.

They are going with what works for them, rather than for you. I'd go ahead with their offer to meet with a supervisor and see if an agreement can be made over the time scale.

Fwiw, mine was done by workers who are directly employed by the HA, not subcontractors, and once I explained specific issues and made them aware of our situation, they couldn't have been more helpful, and went out of their way to make the process as painless for us as they could. Wish I could say the same about the new windows, but no. But then I shouldn't complain because I should be grateful with the 'free' stuff, scum that I am

Ok, that looks ok looks like it’s a complete over haul, new flooring, electrics, plastered, tiled, decorated. It’s likely they can plumb the sink in early, when the do the install. Ask them, and you can use a microwave and air fryer in the lounge as you know.

but seems like you are getting the whole thing redone from scratch.

I don’t agree with you, I had mine done privately and without the floor it took two weeks, that’s a major job, they are taking rhe floor out, replacing rhe plumbing and electrics, re installing the kitchen , floor, plastering, tiling and redecorating. There is no way to habe a working kitchen each night. That’s ludicrous.

Looks similar to our schedule, except that we had the decorating done separately so there was a gap before that. It will basically be the first 5 days that the kitchen is out of use for cooking. After that you should be able to use the kitchen once the worker have gone home for the day. Days out, or picnic lunches bought from a supermarket and take-out for tea, keep a microwave and some disposable cutlery for eating takeout, shouldn't be too bad.

My housing association had different teams doing different parts of the work. Eg one group came in, ripped the kitchen out and left. Then we had to wait for the team who were doing the next part to come in. They were doing lots of houses at the same time and it was really quite chaotic as a result with delays at one house impacting the timetable for everyone else like dominoes going down. One team got delayed then someone else would turn up to do their bit and not be able to, so theyd come back the next day or the day.

it would have been better if they'd focused on one or two houses at a time rather than trying to juggle dozens.

In my DHs younger healthier days back in the 90s he and his friend (our best man) did a kitchen in three days and that included a mains stop cock. Im typing this as DH is saying it and reminding me and he has just said "tbf we did work more than five hours a day" 😏

So what the fuck DO they do for tenants on things like dialysis.

They are doing flooring, not the floor. I'd be really surprised to find that they plan on removing existing tiles to put lino down. I'd expect they'd either attempt to lino over the tiles, or leave the tiles if they are in decent state.
The electrics is a bit more difficult, granted.
I said I had a working kitchen each night when mine was done, not that the OP will have. Each of the jobs on that list were technically done in my kitchen, other than the electrics (unless, as I suspect, in HA terms 'electrics' means 'screw socket boxes back onto the wall', likewise 'plaster walls' means 'fill in any holes from removing previous kitchen')

@SENwoes it does say to contact them if you need to discuss any issues so make sure you do.
Hope it all goes ok for you.