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To be fed up with floods and think it's climate change?

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malificent7 · 05/01/2024 00:26

Live and work in Somerset. Can't get home due to floods. This is the 3rd time in 2 months that the commute has been dangerous. Aibu to think that this is climate change and to be scared and pissed off about it? Yes...i am a contributor to the oroblem. I know.

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RampantIvy · 06/01/2024 11:45

So and so humiliated by freak weather.

Or in our case the promise of a snow bomb/heatwave/tornado/other extreme weather event.

DyslexicPoster · 06/01/2024 11:46

I studied climate change over 3 decades ago, I can’t believe people still deny it’s real. The earth is getting hotter. Just look at the figures.

too many new house being built on flood plans and too much woodland and bare earth being concreted over.

flooding downstream when humans have changed something upstream. If you over populated say a fish tank with too many fish at some point they can’t all live in that tank. Why would the number of humans on the earth be different?

Even if climate change was not man made and it’s just getting wetter it’s not good for crops or us is it? How many years of ruined crops can we survive? Not that I loose sleep over it, that’s nature for you.

if it’s just bad ditch management and too much building in bad places then the outcome is the same. Unless your going to pull down those houses and restore the boggy environment back to its original state.

maybe we need to invest in new artificial rivers that run water away. Except most local authorities are broke.

Areyouthereorhere · 06/01/2024 12:14

LightSwerve · 06/01/2024 11:33

👌Enjoy your crossword!

I do find it concerning how many people think they are reading a neutral source, when they are not.
I know I do not read a neutral source - I read a paper that aligns with me because it aligns with me. Sometimes I read a paper that doesn't align because I want to read the other side.

But the number of people who think the Mail or the Telegraph is not right-wing just blows my mind.

If you're going to read something, at least understand its agenda. Just because it contains facts does not make it neutral.

I completely agree. I read The Guardian. I mostly like it’s political position and it’s one of the few media sources that proactively report on climate chaos and share a lot of what scientists are saying. I also read he BBC news and check out the DM just to see. If there wasn’t a paywall I’d skim read the right wing B-road sheets too. I buy the DM owned i too. It’s amazing how different they all are.

Daftasabroom · 06/01/2024 12:30

@Areyouthereorhere I work on a STEM branch of sustainability. The Guardian is as biased as any other news outlet and much of what it publishes is very selective and often garbage.

Overall the quality of reporting on sustainability and climate change is extremely poor and usually thoroughly misleading.

justasking111 · 06/01/2024 14:14

laclochette · 06/01/2024 11:16

July-Dec 2023 was the wettest equivalent period on records since records began in 1890. Not only are we getting more rain overall but we are getting it in much more intense, concentrated and heavy bursts, which overwhelm out infrastructure. Of course the infrastructure can be updated to cope better with this new reality, but that involves a lot of investment. Which I can't see happening.

So yes, it's climate change PLUS inadequate infrastructure to accommodate that change.

Evidence? Links to the data?

Pifful · 06/01/2024 14:29

Blocked drains yes. More importantly maintenance of rivers and waterways.
Where they used to be kept clear of debdris and growth and dredged to keep the channels now they are not.
Flooding near me entirely avoidable if they had maintained the streams and rivers. No-one will take responsibility. You can go round in circles with all the bodies passing the buck - environment agency, council, water board, land drainage agency.
Remember the farmer who was jailed for dredging a waterway and preventing his neighbours from being flooded? Well that's what used to happen and we got less flooding.

'Ecological vandalism on an industrial scale': Landowner who dredged river is jailed

A landowner who used heavy machinery to dredge a 1.5km stretch of the protected River Lugg near the Shropshire border has been sentenced to 12 months in prison.

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/crime/2023/04/20/ecological-vandalism-on-an-industrial-scale-landowner-who-dredged-river-is-jailed/

OhYouBadBadKitten · 06/01/2024 14:30

justasking111 · 06/01/2024 14:14

Evidence? Links to the data?

Source in photo.
Link to datasets https://eip.ceh.ac.uk/hydrology/water-resources/

To be fed up with floods and think it's climate change?
Cattenberg · 06/01/2024 15:05

Andante57 · 06/01/2024 08:33

It has been raining in the West Country since October, with all the associated inconveniences.
Yet on New Year’s Eve the water levels in our two major reservoirs, Roadford and Colliton, were at 81 per cent and 72 per cent respectively. There is something wrong here.

This was a letter in the Telegraph today which I thought was interesting. Can anyone throw any light on it?

I happened to bump into my uncle this morning. He works for Wessex Water and says the reservoirs in Somerset are overflowing and river levels are also high. Unfortunately, he couldn’t shed any light on Roadford and Colliton as they’re “not his patch”.

megletthesecond · 06/01/2024 15:37

If you mean Mr Price, the farmer who was jailed. Wasn't he actually jailed for destroying the riverbank? I don't blame the authorities for cracking down on him. He claims he wanted to solve one problem but created another one in the process.

Areyouthereorhere · 07/01/2024 21:39

Daftasabroom · 06/01/2024 12:30

@Areyouthereorhere I work on a STEM branch of sustainability. The Guardian is as biased as any other news outlet and much of what it publishes is very selective and often garbage.

Overall the quality of reporting on sustainability and climate change is extremely poor and usually thoroughly misleading.

The DM barely reports in it at all. At least The G has something about it. Honestly, if you just relied on the DM for news you’d not have a clue.

I have friends who work in the field so I’m ???lucky I get access to high quality and accurate information- in a way I wish I didn’t. 😞

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