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DH rarely gets up with the kids

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Mani2024 · 01/01/2024 21:35

I have two children aged 3 and 7. There has been regular conflict between my husband and I since we had our first born about the fact that I get up with our child/children every morning while he stays in bed, sometimes for 5/10 mins or for anything up to an hour. At one point the conflict was frequent and problematic because our kids were going through a long phase of waking up for the day at 5am and I was so very very tired (I also breastfed both so was up in the night too). It’s got easier as our children have grown and now get up at a more reasonable time (between 6-7.30) and most of the time I don’t mind being up with them and having that time before the busy day starts however when there is an unsettled night I can’t help but feel resentful that he never offers to get up. Between Xmas and new year I had to work so he took our children away to their grandparents for a couple of nights so they could see their cousins etc and now he is back he is essentially saying I was given the opportunity to have two lye ins (which is not true as I was working) so why should he get up with them and also pointed out that he does the lions share of the childcare so it all ‘balances out’ (he has my son after school four days a week as he does not want to put him in after school club and has the flexibility to take time away from his business whereas I am working till 5 so his is not an option for me) we can not agree on this. I don’t feel he does the ‘lions share’ because he has my son after school. All he does is pick him up and let him sit on his ipad for two hours while he works on his laptop in the other room. At weekends and as soon as I finish work at 5pm I switch into parent mode to remove the childcare from him. So I’m either working or parenting yet he constantly tells me he does the lions share. I would happily do all the childcare and would love to be a part time worker so I could do the school pick ups every day and have time off with my children but financially we need me to be working. I recently changed my hours to compressed so I work 37 hours over four days so I could have our youngest one day a week rather than my husband having her two days a week. We now have her at home one day each a week but he likes to point out how he did a whole year of having her two days a week. I would have loved to have had her two days a week but again he is needing me to work full time for financial reasons.

it all feels horribly unfair and I find myself feeling restful. When we attempt to talk this through it ends up in a huge row and he accuses me of being completely unreasonable. He says if I want to stay in bed later I should just get out my phone and let the kids watch some TV on that. Just for the record I actually hate staying in bed so don’t fancy lying about, I just desperately want an extra half an hour sleep when the night has been busy with my children waking for various reasons. I’ll of course carry on getting up with the kids but some days I’m just exhausted and would love it if he at least offered to take them downstairs.

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Geppili · 01/01/2024 21:48

He is a lazy gaslighting twat.

TeaKitten · 01/01/2024 21:51

He sounds like an idiot, assuming they are both his kids? You refer to the eldest as being ‘my son’ like he’s not your DPs?

MrsTerryPratchett · 01/01/2024 21:54

The issue will resolve itself as the children age.

The resentment will be there forever.

SouthLondonMum22 · 01/01/2024 21:55

Why should he get up with them? Because he's the fucking parent too, that's why.

DH and I take it in turns at weekends to have lie ins. Why should one parent always get more sleep? It isn't fair.

Don't accept this OP, things need to change.

Mani2024 · 01/01/2024 22:06

Yes both children are his

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Mani2024 · 01/01/2024 22:21

I forgot to mention that he always says he is ‘just ten minutes behind me’ which is just not true. Sometimes I think am I going mad here? Because he seems to truly believe this. I can only assume his 30/45/60 mins bed feels like ten mins to him because time flies when you have some ‘you time’.

He also says that he’s working and that he needs that time in the morning to look at all his business affairs in peace but while I believe he does work I think there is also a lot of scrolling. Ok, so I get that on his day to have our youngest some time to himself is totally understandable but during the rest of the week i find it infuriating that by the time he comes down there is only time for one of us to get a shower before the school and childcare drop offs and weekends he doesn’t need to be doing work first thing in the morning. He knows I will always give him any time he wants/needs for his business. This Sunday gone I had the kids from when they got up to about 6pmish because he was having a stressful day with business related things so when I then also had a very disturbed night with our youngest and then still got up with them after only a few hours sleep i felt particularly pissed off confronted him he basically got angry and said he felt triggered by me saying this as he was doing something extremely important for his business. He didn’t tell me this at the time.

he also often states ‘it’s your choice to get up with them’ and suggests I either just ignore them when they are whining to go downstairs or I get my phone out and let them watch a film. I think he’s missing the point. First off I’m never going to ‘ignore them’ and secondly the point is I need just a bit of rest without them. After that I’m happy to take them for the whole weekend if he wants

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MrsTerryPratchett · 01/01/2024 22:23

i find it infuriating that by the time he comes down there is only time for one of us to get a shower before the school and childcare drop offs

Since it's his choice, I assume you always get the shower.

Torchdino · 01/01/2024 22:25

He sounds like a lazy bastard. Honestly he has zero respect for you, he doesn't appear to take you into consideration at all. Gross.

Mani2024 · 01/01/2024 22:28

Not always no. Sometimes he does then he takes them to their childcare but then as he doesn’t leave till 8.30 and I’m already supposed to working I’m getting ready while responding to emails or I’m rushing. If I get a shower first I have to then take them to childcare as he is in his PJ’s and I’m again rushing back to get online. Sometimes he gets up, quickly gets dressed and takes them to childcare so I can crack on, get ready and straight online but not always. It just doesn’t work but I can’t face confronting him. There is so much conflict about this that we can’t seem to resolve. I start earlier in the morning to work a longer day so I can have one day off a week to look after our youngest so really we should both be getting up together mid week, tag teaming getting ready and getting kids ready so I’m ready to start work early and he’s ready for the day and can take the kids to school/childcare

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Fedupdoc · 01/01/2024 22:32

Honestly? He sounds like an utter dick
I would find this deeply unattractive. Of course it shouldn’t always be you. Of course the way you are feeling is completely justified. I think you have options

  1. you continue this relationship as it is. You will always resent him
  2. you give him an ultimatum. Either he pulled his weight or you leave. If you split and he has the kids 50/50 he will have to bloody well get up then won’t he
Mani2024 · 01/01/2024 22:52

@Fedupdoc just figured out how to reply on here. I have considered leaving him so many times not really about this but things with this kind of theme. It’s really overwhelming to think about how that could work with two children but also I question myself. He often says I focus on everything that he doesn’t do rather than what he does do and I only look at the negatives. I honestly feel like I’m going mad and constantly question whether I’m being unreasonable but maybe that’s him gas lighting me. I don’t know enough about it. If he is I’d say it’s unintentional as he does feel that he does so much for us as a family

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Mani2024 · 01/01/2024 22:53

@TeaKitten just figured out how to reply. Yes both his children. I should have said ‘our son’

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Mani2024 · 01/01/2024 23:01

@SouthLondonMum22 he says he isn’t sleeping, he justifies it by saying he’s working. I know he isn’t sleeping and I know he does a bit of work but I believe there’s a lot of just chilling and scrolling. Obviously I can’t really prove this apart from when he’s sending me TikTok’s from upstairs on occasion but I feel I’m backed into a corner when he angrily states he’s been working

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MumChp · 01/01/2024 23:05

Get oldest child into an after school programme. Much better for the child than spending two hours on an Ipad.

Share the duties at home 50/50 including taking care of childrens' need.
You are a working mum not anyone's servant.

If husband doesn't want to take up his part you do better as a single mother to two children than now with three children.

Therealjudgejudy · 01/01/2024 23:06

He's a gaslighting lazy twat

MrsTerryPratchett · 01/01/2024 23:18

It just doesn’t work but I can’t face confronting him. There is so much conflict about this that we can’t seem to resolve.

OK so he's either an utter unsalvageable arsehole who you should leave OR he's a basically decent man who is struggling with fairness and communication. Luckily there's a test. WHEN, I FEEL, BECAUSE, PLEASE. Choose a quiet, non-stressful time. Preferably when everyone has some time and then say, "I'd like to have a talk about the schedule". And use a version of the following:

When I lose sleep and can't get a shower before work I feel knackered and upset. One of the reasons is because we're a team and should be working for the best for all of us. Please can we work out a system that benefits both of us? Then tell him your asks. And let him say his. Your asks:

A shower without multi-tasking
Enough sleep
Anything else?

And work together to see if there's a system where everyone gets a little of what they want. Don't shoot down any ideas he has, table them and think of as many as possible. If he cannot have this conversation, you have to plan to leave. Because he either doesn't care about you, or your feelings, or your core values. And you can't have a relationship based on that.

WonderLife · 01/01/2024 23:23

When the kids wake up, send them to get in to bed with daddy while you have a shower and get ready for work.

SkaterGrrrrl · 01/01/2024 23:35

He sounds awful, sorry. He should do his share of mornings.

Delassalle · 01/01/2024 23:38

Make a secret den inside a wardrobe so that you have room to squish in with a blanket and a pillow.

Get up early and slink off to your secret hideaway and let the kids come running in and jump all over him.

BrightGreenMoonBuggy · 01/01/2024 23:39

I’m angry on your behalf, OP. Lazy selfish git.

Halfemptyhalfling · 01/01/2024 23:44

Can you both go to bed earlier so it's easier for either of you to get up?

Teapleasemilknosugar · 02/01/2024 04:27

It sounds like he thinks it's fair, what you've got going at the moment? Have you told him how you feel about it?

Can you shower in the evening when the kids are in bed so you can just dress and go in the morning? It's what I do so that I get time in the day for personal care since my 2nd was born. Not my ideal but it helps take a bit of pressure off the busy mornings.

I'd also second a pp's suggestion about getting the eldest into after school club or an activity of some sort, much healthier than a couple of sedentary iPad hours after school with your DH.

He should really be getting up with them, too.

W0tnow · 02/01/2024 04:34

The resentment, in many ways, will be greater in 20 years’ time. Even when you’re both (now) getting plenty of sleep. I can’t explain why. But some days it’s close to boiling over. I’m going to have a serious conversation with my son if and when he partners up and has children.

user1492757084 · 02/01/2024 04:56

I think you are both unreasonable to think that your children are too young to be told to stay in their bedroom quietly until the clock says 7 o'clock.
Buy a large clock and teach them about time and that all people like quiet sleepy time before 7:00 am.
Teach them how to go to the toilet quietly, have a drink of water and a dry biscuit and read or play quietly. (Have some quiet activities in their room.)

Take turns to prepare breakfast at 7:00 am. while your kids are dressing

Your children are past the baby stage and should be learning acceptable social skills for living in a family.

Mani2024 · 02/01/2024 09:05

@Halfemptyhalfling i don’t generally find it hard to get up day to to day, I’m usually up with them between 6-7am. The issue I have is I do this every day and when the kids have been up in the night (bad dreams/sick/unsettled) I would really appreciate it if he offered at get up with them. This would only be if this occurred at the weekend. Weekdays I don’t have time to catch some extra sleep so I just crack on and power through with coffee. That said I could start going to sleep earlier to make those unsettled nights easier. At the moment I’m asleep by 10ish but I could shift this earlier to 9pm. You know how it is though, by the time we’ve got the kids down, had dinner and cleaned up its 9pm which leaves you with no evening

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