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How grumpy is ok?

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BadMoodQ · 28/12/2023 16:17

When my partner is stressed I feel as if he talks to me like a grumpy teenager - short responses or grunts, a bit snappy and sarcastic sounding. I know I can be sensitive to other people’s moods, so try not to be too reactive, but it does cross a line where I feel like a doormat if I don’t say I don’t like it. Then if I try and say that it seemed disrespectful to me then we have a massive argument, which has once led to him telling me to fuck off, other times just being angrily defensive and extra sarcasm/grumpiness, however tactfully I try to approach the conversation. I think if I snap at people or am in a bad mood then I say sorry. But he’s saying that he’s ‘not allowed to be in a bad mood’ when what it feels like to me is that I’m not allowed to ask not to be talked to disrespectfully. The grumpiness (rather than the subsequent argument) is fairly low level, it’s not name calling or belittlement or anything, but it isn’t how I talk to him. I wish he could just say ‘sorry, bit stressed’ when i point it out, but instead he makes me feel as if i’m insane, sometimes by first denying he was even grumpy, then by saying yes he was in a bad mood but that’s his right. This is rare, and he has had some big stresses and challenges recently, but obviously there always will be stresses and I don’t want them to always lead to this. There has also been one recent occasion where he was grumpy on the final day of my working towards a the end of a years long massive work project. Again, not majorly offensive, but low key lack of politeness, which made me feel so unsupported.

YABU - low key grumpiness and ‘bad moods’ are normal in a relationship
YANBU - adults try not to grunt or snap at each other and say sorry if they do

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starynightskys · 28/12/2023 17:09

I think everyone has bit of a grump.
I dont think i could live with either of you if your in a mood most of the time.

But then again im not a grumpy person im always happy and positive.
Also single and loving life.

You may have to ask yourself do you want to spend the rest of your life with a grump in a grump because of his and your grumpyness.

BadMoodQ · 28/12/2023 17:16

starynightskys · 28/12/2023 17:09

I think everyone has bit of a grump.
I dont think i could live with either of you if your in a mood most of the time.

But then again im not a grumpy person im always happy and positive.
Also single and loving life.

You may have to ask yourself do you want to spend the rest of your life with a grump in a grump because of his and your grumpyness.

I’m not in a mood most of the time, not sure where you’ve got that from? I’m quite an upbeat person, but if I do come across grumpy under stress I apologise. He’s also not in a mood most of the time, as I said, my post is about what happens when he is.

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starynightskys · 28/12/2023 17:18

Sit down together and talk find out whats going on.

Bepopp · 28/12/2023 17:19

The fact you’re writing this thread to ask the question suggests it’s probably more than is okay! Everyone has bad days and moods it depends how they go about them. If they openly say, look I’ve had a crap day and I might just keep myself to myself - they have pre warned you. If it’s constantly then obv it’s not alright.

pikkumyy77 · 28/12/2023 17:27

He sounds like he needs help managing his emotions—like a toddler or a teenager who doesn’t know how to ask for help when they are overwhelmed and gets mad at mommy who is supposed to serve as a punching bag or fix things without having needs of her own. He resents being made aware of how his moods impact you. This is why he gets even angrier when you ask for him to apologize for bring rude. Being short, snappy, and moody is his “cry for help” and by asking him to solve his own problems without being rude to you you ate missing the whole point of his behavior which is to mss to make you take care of him How dare you have a big project to take care of when he’s big mad/sad/stressed?

I think brene brown’s little videos about shame and reactivity might be useful for you.

BadMoodQ · 28/12/2023 17:29

Bepopp · 28/12/2023 17:19

The fact you’re writing this thread to ask the question suggests it’s probably more than is okay! Everyone has bad days and moods it depends how they go about them. If they openly say, look I’ve had a crap day and I might just keep myself to myself - they have pre warned you. If it’s constantly then obv it’s not alright.

I’m creating the thread in the aftermath of an argument about it, so definitely feeling upset by it right now! It’s far from constant, he’s otherwise caring and considerate, and he has had very legitimate massive stresses recently. But it does seem unlikely that he’ll ever learn to say ‘i’ve had a crap day, need some space.’ It’s just hard to gauge how sensitive I’m being vs how rude he’s being. I see a lot of couples who do grunt and snipe at each other a lot, and I’d hate to end up like that. I’m never short with him in the same way, but I do have other foibles that he tolerates. It just seems risky to tolerate what feels like disrespect. It’s not a ltb question, I guess it’s a how much to let it slide as an occasional occurrence but which makes me feel really lonely and like a doormat, vs saying something and it being a big argument and both feeling even shittier after!

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BadMoodQ · 28/12/2023 17:32

pikkumyy77 · 28/12/2023 17:27

He sounds like he needs help managing his emotions—like a toddler or a teenager who doesn’t know how to ask for help when they are overwhelmed and gets mad at mommy who is supposed to serve as a punching bag or fix things without having needs of her own. He resents being made aware of how his moods impact you. This is why he gets even angrier when you ask for him to apologize for bring rude. Being short, snappy, and moody is his “cry for help” and by asking him to solve his own problems without being rude to you you ate missing the whole point of his behavior which is to mss to make you take care of him How dare you have a big project to take care of when he’s big mad/sad/stressed?

I think brene brown’s little videos about shame and reactivity might be useful for you.

Thanks, this makes a lot of sense. It’s kind of how I already see it, but don’t know how to respond to not play into it - will check out her videos.

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