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To people who believe in ghosts..

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AnxiousAnniee · 26/12/2023 10:40

I used to believe in ghosts when I was a child but as an adult I don’t. I find that there’s too many things that don’t make sense to me and just aren’t logical. When you actually start thinking about it and what it means to be a ghost, I think it just seems silly. I get that everyone has a different opinion though so I’m really genuinely interested to hear what people believe about the following questions…

  • if ghosts exist and look like the person who has died, how do they walk around and move things without muscles or a brain? How do people hear ghosts giggle and speak if they Dont have a brain or a voice box? If they are just a see through sprit how can they really do this? You can’t move, think, or talk without a brain. And they don’t have a brain or muscles because they are spirits.
  • similarly with moving things around or opening cupboards. First of all why would they do this? Why would a ghost turn a tap on??? For what reason? Secondly if they are so light and see through and can walk through things, how can they pick things up instead of just moving through them?
  • if a ghost is a spirit and someone’s soul, then how come they are always wearing clothes when people claim to have seen them? Clothes don’t die and clothes don’t have souls, so clothes don’t have an afterlife and shouldn’t come back as clothes ghosts. They should all be naked.
  • how come people only ever see ghosts of loved ones and scary Victorian children or soldiers and things? How come no one ever sees a caveman ghost or a chav ghost in trackies? (Again, they shouldn’t really be wearing anything anyway)
  • if ghosts are souls then that means everyone will turn into a ghost when they die. Which means we are currently SWAMPED with ghosts. They’re everywhere. We’re constantly walking through them everywhere we go because that many people have died in the world, we are bombarded with them
  • what about baby ghosts? Babies can’t walk so does that mean that there’s loads of ghost babies just lay on the floor all around us?

I’m not taking the piss here, these are genuine questions that I have asked myself when I believed. And the more I think about it the more I just don’t believe it. However, I’m aware that people still do, so I’d love to hear what you think the answers are to these questions and what you think ghosts actually are, and their purpose?

OP posts:
Watchkeys · 03/01/2024 20:39

Perhaps you could explain more clearly? It looked like you were saying that your personal opinion on the truth is less cruel and frightening than other options (such as the speaker's opinion on the truth, or disregarding the truth because empathy has nothing to do with truth)

Do please correct me... I'm sure you'll be happy to. You seem to know everything with such certainty @WhatsTheUseOfWorrying

anotherghoststory · 03/01/2024 20:43

CurlewKate · 31/12/2023 16:46

And just to repeat. I don't think people are usually lying or deluded. I think they are mistaken. Or misinterpreting. Or misinformed.

Well i know what i saw, initially seen by my young daughter, i posted about it earlier in the thread, so i wont repeat.

It doesn't really matter what people believe, it wont change the world.

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 03/01/2024 21:02

I don’t see what else I can do other than ask you to re-read the post I was responding to and my post, both in full.

StillStuckInTheShed · 03/01/2024 21:03

It's always going to be a controversial argument... for me it's as simple as before science and technology was advanced enough to prove the existence of oxygen we had no idea it was a thing. Let alone something so important it kept us alive.

The universe is a marvelous and never ending thing and no doubt there's WAY more to it than what we can physically see or test right now. Who's to say our technolgies aren't yet advanced enough to find 'super natural' evidence?

Watchkeys · 03/01/2024 21:09

@WhatsTheUseOfWorrying

You could say whether this was accurate or not?

It looked like you were saying that your personal opinion on the truth is less cruel and frightening than other options (such as the speaker's opinion on the truth, or disregarding the truth because empathy has nothing to do with truth

WhatsTheUseOfWorrying · 03/01/2024 21:55

Watchkeys · 03/01/2024 21:09

@WhatsTheUseOfWorrying

You could say whether this was accurate or not?

It looked like you were saying that your personal opinion on the truth is less cruel and frightening than other options (such as the speaker's opinion on the truth, or disregarding the truth because empathy has nothing to do with truth

Your statement doesn’t make any sense. It doesn’t show empathy of any sort to say that some experience was or might have been a visitation of the paranormal.

I think you’re confusing the offence that you seem to feel when people disagree with you with empathy for emotional reaction to unsettling experiences. But I can’t be at all sure because what you’re saying is so muddled.

Watchkeys · 04/01/2024 17:20

@WhatsTheUseOfWorrying

Sorry you're so confused. I don't need you to understand and can't be bothered to try to understand your posts any more!

Happy new year.

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