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To drink whilst in sole charge of toddler?

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MuxMoo · 23/12/2023 21:01

Currently upstairs trying to defuse a situation that I am left wondering if I am in the wrong for and so I thought a post on here may leave some clarity.

Me and my partner have DS who is 16 months, a DD who is 5 and my partner has a son who is 11. DS is rather clingy to me and due to still breastfeeding, I am more often then not a walking dummy (we’re working on it!), this has meant that it’s only been the last couple of months that I’ve been able to leave him for longer periods of time. So today I thought that I would go out and have some girl time just me and DD and go watch a film at the cinema, have some lunch and grab last few bits of Christmas shopping. Had a really nice day together and was gone for around 5 hours. When we got home, as soon as I got in the door I could hear in my partners voice that he had, had a drink. I asked him if he had and he snapped back ‘yes, why is that a problem?’ - thought to myself here we bloody go. I just said ‘I don’t think it’s the best idea to be drinking whilst you’re in sole charge of DS as you need eyes in the back of your head with him at the best of times!’ - that was it then and as he’d been drinking he was defensive straight away and started calling me all sorts including an effing see you next Tuesday, calling me absolutely vile, telling our daughter I’m absolutely evil and it’s my fault that daddy is shouting and stuff like that.

Don’t get me wrong, my partner wasn’t absolutely out of his face drunk, he had managed to make tea for us for example, and I understand it’s Christmas and people like to let loose a little - but surely responsibility comes first? Or am I being uptight?
If DS was a older then it wouldn’t bother me as much, but he’s still very much at the age of trying to cause all sorts of havoc, he actually has a fat lip which was apparently caused by him falling over - just typical it happens today eh?
This argument then resulted in him saying he’s going out and taking his step son home so he doesn’t have to listen to the arguing (by arguing he means him shouting at me) which meant he was planning on driving, insisting he wasn’t drunk. I’ve hid his keys because I can still hear it in his voice that he is over the limit. Told him I’ll stay upstairs out of his way so he doesn’t need to leave (as much as I bloody wish he would), but the whole evening he’s just kept returning upstairs to demand his keys and give me more verbal abuse, telling me I’ve caused all this when I can honestly say that apart from trying to put my point across for about 10 minutes whilst we were downstairs, I’ve honestly not said a word to him and just let him unload on me apart from asking him to please leave it when our daughter has been upset at him shouting. He’s fallen out with his mum as well about it and told me it’s my fault that he’s called his mum a see you next Tuesday as well, telling me I’m a control freak cause I’ve hid his keys.

So heartbroken, my daughter is Christmas obsessed and tomorrow is obviously Christmas Eve and she’s so so excited. Just don’t know what to do moving forward, she’s been so upset tonight crying that she doesn’t want daddy to go and asking for my reassurance that he will be here when she wakes up. What do I do 🥺

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Nicole1111 · 23/12/2023 21:32

So you’re in an abusive relationship with someone with alcohol issues who is emotionally abusing your children and putting them at risk as a result of drink driving and a lack of supervision due to him being under the influence. What are you going to do to protect your children moving forwards?

MrsKeats · 23/12/2023 21:32

And he was going to drive a car with a child in it that far over the limit?
He's so far out of order.

Pigeotto · 23/12/2023 21:34

Pls leave. This was me this time last year.

I do co sleeping on my side of things so I wouldn’t touch a drop of alcohol when I’m in charge. Like others have said there’s kind of bigger issues which I think this might be masking but others have missed. I bet you feel like he drink a too much often and he gaslights you into thinking it’s normal to have a pack of beer every night. I bet he can function seamlessly the next day and by he sounds of it I bet his personality changes completely after a few drinks.

Don’t do anything drastic over Christmas with kids involved but as soon as you sit down to make your repositions for 2024 have a a proper think about how happy you really are💕

ofestivetree · 23/12/2023 21:34

Take your kids and leave. He hates you.

WonderLife · 23/12/2023 21:34

The drink is the least of your issues.

The verbal and emotional abuse towards you and the children is what you should be worrying about.

MadeForThis · 23/12/2023 21:36

Your child had a fat lip? Can he even explain what happened to him?

Missingmyusername · 23/12/2023 21:37

Absolutely the problem here is alcohol. 🤔 It’s fine he called you a cunt of your children of course.

OttilieKnackered · 23/12/2023 21:41

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a 1-2 drinks. Any more than a mild buzz is a bit irresponsible.

I don’t really get the driving thing though. Lots of people don’t drive and/or don’t have a car (including me). Are they all shit parents? If there was a medical emergency I would call a taxi or ambulance depending on severity.

Perhaps those saying this live much less centrally than me.

Agree with others that the bigger issue is his reaction though.

Username9917 · 23/12/2023 21:42

Leave this horrible, horrible abusive man. I cannot fathom why you would stay, except that maybe he has worn you down from years of abuse. You deserve more. Please leave, for your children's sake and your sake.

Catza · 23/12/2023 21:42

Agree with others - alcohol is the least of your worries here. A small glass of wine while looking after a baby is probably OK for most people. But calling you names is not. Even if it wasn’t in front of the kids it still wouldn’t be OK. Telling the children it’s your fault is the prime example of domestic violence. Please don’t engage with him today. Wait for things to settle down then decide how best to get yourself out of this relationship

MrsKeats · 23/12/2023 21:45

He was about to drive ottilie that's the point.
I hate people who drink and drive.
All the other stuff is dreadful too obviously.

AhBiscuits · 23/12/2023 21:47

A drink or two is fine.
Nothing at all about this whole situation is fine.

Vinrouge4 · 23/12/2023 21:51

A man would only call me a fucking cunt once. Then he would be out on his ear. Have some respect for yourself and get rid of him. He’s abusive and immature and I doubt will ever change.

audweb · 23/12/2023 21:52

You can have a drink and be in charge of a kid but that’s not what happening here - I would have wine with tea or at night, and I’m a single parent, but not four double rums in the afternoon. And the rest of it - believe me, it’s exhausting and crap living with someone who drinks too much then blames it all on you. That’s the issue here. It’s exhausting and not worth it.

OttilieKnackered · 23/12/2023 21:57

@MrsKeats no, I mean the people saying they personally wouldn’t drink at all in case they needed to drive.

OttilieKnackered · 23/12/2023 21:58

Goes without saying you shouldn’t drink and drive!!!

MuxMoo · 23/12/2023 22:13

I’m going go leave him after Christmas, I really am. All of you are right and I know in my heart that as much as I want it to, it won’t ever change.

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WingsofRain · 23/12/2023 22:18

I don’t even drink when in sole charge of my dogs, I can’t imagine anyone drinking when left to look after a toddler!
YANBU, also, if he is calling you unpleasant names I’d consider splitting up with him, it’s not acceptable behaviour.

InDaiTri · 23/12/2023 22:25

@MuxMoo please take care of yourself and your children! Your relationship is abusive and do not let him gaslight you into thinking this is normal. Please do all in your power to get your children away from this situation or else they will grow up thinking that this sort of family dynamic is the norm! Sending you all my love x

XenaTheWarriorPrincess · 23/12/2023 22:33

It slightly baffles me the people saying that the alcohol isn't the problem here, alcohol is entirely the problem. He's an alcoholic and it's making him abusive.

My dad was the same way and would never remember anything he'd said to me or my mum the next day. Was perfectly lovely sober.

He was an alcoholic, stopped drinking for 4 months (I'm guessing there was no verbal abuse during this time?) And has now relapsed.

He'll only stop and get it together if you leave him. If you stay, it enables his drinking and behaviour and he'll probably just start trying to hide it.

As the child of a verbally abusive alcoholic I beg you to get your children out of there.

I'll never forget when I was around 7 or 8 and he snarled at me that I was a mistake and he wished he never had me and I ruined his life. Don't let that be your kids. My mother kicked him out for that one, but only for a couple of weeks.

Lavender14 · 23/12/2023 22:37

XenaTheWarriorPrincess · 23/12/2023 22:33

It slightly baffles me the people saying that the alcohol isn't the problem here, alcohol is entirely the problem. He's an alcoholic and it's making him abusive.

My dad was the same way and would never remember anything he'd said to me or my mum the next day. Was perfectly lovely sober.

He was an alcoholic, stopped drinking for 4 months (I'm guessing there was no verbal abuse during this time?) And has now relapsed.

He'll only stop and get it together if you leave him. If you stay, it enables his drinking and behaviour and he'll probably just start trying to hide it.

As the child of a verbally abusive alcoholic I beg you to get your children out of there.

I'll never forget when I was around 7 or 8 and he snarled at me that I was a mistake and he wished he never had me and I ruined his life. Don't let that be your kids. My mother kicked him out for that one, but only for a couple of weeks.

The problem with your argument @XenaTheWarriorPrincess is that there are lots of functioning alcoholics out there who are not abusing their spouse and children. It may have been the case for your dad but unfortunately that's not the case for lots of people and often alcohol is used as an excuse for abusive behaviour. So we can't say it's entirely the alcohol since he's continued to abuse op as he's sobered up.

Iwishiwasasilentnight · 23/12/2023 22:38

UsingChangeofName · 23/12/2023 21:15

As an aside, what's "an effing see you next Tuesday" ?

It’s means cunt.

Z1hun · 23/12/2023 22:41

1 drink I could accept. Anything more really isn't safe. And pit of curiosity was he drinking alone? If so, that's just sad!

AcrossthePond55 · 23/12/2023 22:49

MuxMoo · 23/12/2023 22:13

I’m going go leave him after Christmas, I really am. All of you are right and I know in my heart that as much as I want it to, it won’t ever change.

GOOD! Start getting those ducks in a row and let the duck parade commence!

New housing if you rent, budget & finances, and legal advice if you jointly own a home or other assets and for child maintenance and access issues.

And tell someone IRL. Support from your friends and family will keep you strong.

Universalsnail · 23/12/2023 23:35

I think a couple of drinks in charge of children is completely fine BUT his behaviour is absolutely not at all fine. He is abusive. Either normal or he's an abusive drunk