Assisted suicide offered to homeless people in Canada

[gnarlynarwhal]

I came across an article online about this earlier today and I’m shocked this is seen as acceptable by so many people in Canada. It’s advertised on the tv over there as if it’s a perfectly acceptable thing to do. The National Post is claiming that one third of Canadians think that it’s perfectly acceptable to approve medical assistance in dying ‘MAID’ to healthy people purely because they are impoverished. I find it really saddening.

As others said:
1 Canada does NOT offer assisted suicide to homeless people
2 72% of Canadians agree that this is a good policy

Of course I worry about what the other 28% are thinking!

Now that Esther Rantzen has started the campaign for parliament to look at assisted suicide again, I expect to see lots more articles like this trying to derail the campaign.

I'm in favour of assisted suicide / voluntary euthanasia, I'm not sure why so many people think it would inevitably lead to people being killed who didn't want to end their life.

Of course there are many issues that would need looking at before it could be introduced. Clearly there must be safeguards against people being coerced or people opting for assisted suicide due to a mental health problem which they could recover from. And if certain categories of people are eligible for assisted suicide (and others are not), does that mean we value those people less?

At the very bottom, it states the figures come from 1000 people polled online over 2 days.

That is exactly how polling work though. 1000 is an extremely respectable sample, which will be nationally representative. Polls like this are used to guide policy all the time

Why was Sofia, 51, who only had multiple sensitivities and only after being homeless because she couldn't find anywhere to rent that didn't have cigarette smoke or cleaning agents, decide that she wanted to die, approved for MAID?

Ah but they don't mind them having a miserable life and dying in poverty @Nofilteritwonthelp, any more than they mind people suffering slow, painful deaths without adequate relief because none is available (other than in principle). They just want to keep their hands clean.

It's very tricky to keep to this in practice.

Almost as soon as Canada passed it's laws, advocacy groups started trying to roll back these kinds of protections. Both by challenging them in the courts - that they were discriminatory, usually against people with mental health conditions. Or in the public mind, promoting sad stories about people not being conscious and so being denied MAID, and similar things like that.

The courts have been quite a useful ally for them. Which I think was the plan all along, they were ready to go as soon as the law was passed.

Maybe 18% have read the article rather than jumped to a conclusion that the Canadians are currently encouraging poor people to suicide and a third of the population are in favour.

This has all come about from a liberal, ‘open’ #bekind, and conformist perspective. Started with assisted dying for the terminally ill, which has an argument, but someone, somewhere felt it could and should be available for mental health, not just physical health. That’s when the liberal thinking transformed into woolly and uncritical thinking. The literal epitome of good intentions paving the way to hell.

Exactly. Far too many people parking their brains.

Because society is better if we don't make suicide easy for people?

wow, that's a slippery slope

It doesn’t surprise me sadly (although it basically is social cleansing). If anyone wants to see the future of a society which is woke, Canada is it!

So perfectly healthy people should be able to end their lives? People that are just going through a crap time should be able to end their lives? Criminals that don’t like the ideal of serving a long sentence should be allowed to take their lives? Have you ever been in a place where you want to take your life? When you have thought that life will never get better? Because 99% of the time life does get better with the correct help and guidance, that includes those who are addicts and the homeless.

Giving people this option is just a great way to reduce homelessness 🤔and to get rid of a large amount of poor people.

It's a great example of the left operating with the world as they'd like it to be, rather than the world as it is.

In theory, assisted suicide is a positive thing and people shouldn't be forced to carry on beyond if that's immensely painful.

In practice, these kinds of initiatives are ripe with slippery slope tendencies and opportunities for exploitation. When it's people's lives at stake, we need to tread incredibly carefully.

Exactly, erode critical thinking and dystopia will follow.

But most people already have the option of ending their lives @Lovemusic82 , especially healthy ones. Why would they suddenly chose to do so just because there is a legal route when zo many other options are already available? Legalised euthanasia chiefly benefits those who are too ill, or about to become too ill, to manage affairs for themselves. People with muscular dystrophy, cancer, and other terminal and degenerative conditions.

disabled people waiting for adjustments to their homes and veterans

Yes, a former veteran and Paralympian had "MAID" suggested to her when she complained about the length of time it was taking to get a lift in her home, after it taking a really long time to get ramped access to get home ...... The person who suggested it had done the same to others.
Trudeau claimed to be horrified and that it would be investigated.

WOW! It’s like rather than try and help people they’d rather just get rid of them permanently. Just wow! So shocked!

Because society is better if we don't make suicide easy for people?

That doesn't answer my question, why should people who don't want to be alive be made to live? 'Because it makes society feel better' isn't an answer. I didn't choose to be born, I had no choice but to live, I should be allowed to terminate that choice if I wish. Anyone should. What better way to enable choice than to offer a safer alternative to say, throwing yourself off a building.

Disagree with this massively. I’ve wanted to die before and attempted suicide before. If I’d have been allowed to have assisted suicide I wouldn’t be here today. Finally in a happy place. Support should be offered first not assistance to die!!!

And what if someone is in a completely depressive state, who with the right treatment will get better? There are a lot of people who are suicidal at some point in their lives who go on to recover and live full healthy lives. Assisting them in killing themselves when they're at their lowest is depriving them (and by extension their families) of that opportunity.

I understand people who have terminal or life-limiting illnesses with no chance of recovery wanting to end their lives and in those circumstances I think they should be able to access the right support.

Isn’t Canada also one of the countries that actively encourages all the gender affirming nonsense that sees kids cutting off their breasts? Why not add in suicide too? Anything goes.

The world is BONKERS. We voted for brexit and bojo the clown. The USA have to geriatrics via for president. Just to name a few things.

I am pretty sure if people want to die, they would be able to commit suicide without MAID. I can see the government would rather spend the taxpayers money on likes of Baroness Bra, as a most recent example, than on support for the homeless in the form of providing shelter, food and clothes

I saw a video on YouTube about the cost of living and food banks in Canada. I can’t remember who posted the video now, wish I’d book marked it.

They spoke to various people, one was a support worker whose clients had been “offered” the assisted suicide option when they approached authorities for assistance with food bank and rent.

Isn’t Canada also one of the countries that actively encourages all the gender affirming nonsense that sees kids cutting off their breasts? Why not add in suicide too? Anything goes.

Yup.