Assisted suicide offered to homeless people in Canada

[gnarlynarwhal]

I came across an article online about this earlier today and I’m shocked this is seen as acceptable by so many people in Canada. It’s advertised on the tv over there as if it’s a perfectly acceptable thing to do. The National Post is claiming that one third of Canadians think that it’s perfectly acceptable to approve medical assistance in dying ‘MAID’ to healthy people purely because they are impoverished. I find it really saddening.

The poll itself is embedded in the article, in this para:

'The results were contained in a recent Research Co. poll probing just how comfortable Canadians were with the current state of the country’s MAID (medical assistance in dying) regime.'

Seems to be this one:

https://researchco.ca/2023/05/05/maid-canada-2023/

'Methodology: Results are based on an online study conducted from April 22 to April 24, 2023, among 1,000 adults in Canada. The data has been statistically weighted according to Canadian census figures for age, gender and region. The margin of error, which measures sample variability, is +/- 3.1 percentage points, nineteen times out of twenty.
Find our data tables here and download the press release here.

Ok we need safeguards but the status quo, where people are left to suffer in constant pain for months, something we don't allow our pets to do, is also not right. There has to be a way to enable adults with full capacity to end their lives at a time and place of their choosing without it being a free for all -a diagnosis of 6 months or less to live would be acceptable to me.

This is not new news. They are also trying to (or maybe already have) make it available for people with mental health problems.

There was a devastating case of a woman who was trying desperately to stop them from allowing her depressed 18 year old to die via MAID, last I heard she had no say in it because he's an adult.

They're utterly disgusting and claim that their organ donation register is thriving thanks to this, claiming that's a 'benefit' of the MAID program.

As someone who actually wants assisted suicide legalised this makes me very angry. It should be available to who have terminal illnesses. I’m currently watching both parents die long painful miserable deaths, I have been for nearly 20 years. I want the freedom to be able to say I don’t want this for myself, I don’t want to loose my dignity and ruin my family’s lives. I want to go out early and quickly and leave them with positive memories of me. I already have no positive memories of my parents. I do not want to become an empty shell draining up resources that could be used to actually help others.

So in Canada they have decided to use euthanasia to solve housing problems instead of actually building some fucking houses? This does a real disservice to people facing painful slow horrible painful death who need assisted dying. It’s a misuse of a merciful release for some and a waste of healthy life for others. Fuck Canada.

some times there is no help to be had.

I face an undignified, very painful, bed-bound, useless future so would be first in the queue if Assisted Suicide was available in the UK

I remember thinking about 15 years ago that Canada seemed too good to be true, and I was apparently right. It looks increasingly like the dystopia from the Lego Movie, where superficially "everything is awesome" but if you don't fit in you can literally be put to sleep.

It's not (all) "Canadians" it's Canadians POLLED, also the poll and the headline say something different.

But by all means let us know how horrified it makes you 😂😂😂

So about 20% of Canadians either ‘strongly’ or ‘somewhat’ agree that anyone who wants a medically existed death should be eligible. I don’t find this objectionable in theory. You’d probably have a similar % in the UK.

There are a relative handful of people, about 7% who don’t think that it should be open to everyone, but being poor or homeless should be sufficient ‘suffering’ to qualify you. I find this position more problematic, for sure, but based on the poll it’s a fringe position.

I love threads like this that clearly demonstrate the members of society who are intellectually challenged.

The OP posts a made-up statement with absolutely nothing to back it up and many Mumsnetters are salivating in their rage and fury.

Shaking and crying probably.

This is how I feel. Who are we to judge whether a person feels their life is worth living.

I hope assisted dying is permissible here in the not too distant future.

So in Canada they have decided to use euthanasia to solve housing problems instead of actually building some fucking houses? This does a real disservice to people facing painful slow horrible painful death who need assisted dying. It’s a misuse of a merciful release for some and a waste of healthy life for others. Fuck Canada.
No, they haven’t - you seem to be confusing ‘what a small percentage of Canadians would like, according to one poll’ with what laws have actually been passed.

Properly helping people is expensive and difficult.

Killing them is cheap and easy.

The Canadian government has discovered that if they don't bother to help people, they'll choose death. It's a win-win for them.

I'm terrified our government might discover this too. I'm on expensive medication. Without it life truly would be unbearable, I'd be in pain and unable to do anything for myself.

All they would need to do would be to make my treatment unobtainable or unaffordable for me, and boom, I'd be begging for death. But I wouldn't actually want to die, I'd want to live, just not in agony.

Canada aren’t offering assisted suicide for homeless people though, it is a hypothetical question.

I think it’s a crime at the moment that assisted suicide is only available to people who can afford it when it should be available to all.

I think you need to re-read the OP, she does say these are the views of Canadians. She hasn't said homeless people are actually being offered it.

The National Post is claiming that one third of Canadians think that it’s perfectly acceptable to approve medical assistance in dying ‘MAID’ to healthy people purely because they are impoverished.

So you think only rich people should be allowed a dignified death? That’s what being happy it’s expensive means that the poor plebs of the world must continue to live on or commit suicide in terrible ways because they are too poor.

Who are we to decide that someone should have to live their life because of some tick boxes? It’s their own life.

It’s funny mention abortion and it’s a majority of her body her choice. Mention assisted suicide and it’s erm well only if this and that and but that too. But when it’s death it’s not her/his body her/his choice.

Just to confirm.

If 20-27% say they agree with something in a poll, it doesn’t automatically become law, in Canada.

This seemingly needs clarifying for quite a few people in here. Don’t they still have schools in the UK?

Just because 27% of people answered that way doesn't mean it's right or it should happen.

Here, people voted for Brexit, which just goes to show that some of the population have very strange idea about what is right.

Haven’t read the whole thread but disabled people are also offered this an one of the options when they contact services for support.

Yes but the point is more Canadians thought it should be offered to homeless people than to people for regardless of why they request it.

Reece-Mogg was talking about this yesterday. He made the point that historically if you introduce narrow limitations euthanasia law, they will alway gradually be expanded. He specifically referred to Canada ‘s fiasco. The question then becomes - what yardarm are you using to create the law, and where does it stop?
The UK should think carefully about what might be ahead.
Ever watched Solent Green? Elderly people lining up for euthanasia so as not to be a drain on their children.

There was a devastating case of a woman who was trying desperately to stop them from allowing her depressed 18 year old to die via MAID, last I heard she had no say in it because he's an adult.
That doesn’t sound likely to be true, not least because the law that would allow some people with mental health conditions to seek medically-assisted dying hasn’t even come into force yet.

About 7%, in some random opinion poll where they’re not even likely to have given it that much thought.

Canada is an example of euthanasia going too far. Euthanasia is the wrong word anyway if people have to administer the drugs themselves, such as the case would be in Switzerland.

Maybe look at the countries who are doing it right, than have a knee jerk reaction about people being made into food.

The title of the OP is Assisted suicide offered to homeless people in Canada. That is not true.

And if you re-read the thread title, it says

“Assisted suicide offered to homeless people in Canada”