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Karma in action

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Barlow11 · 19/12/2023 19:28

I’ve just witnessed karma in action. An absolutely horrible person has finally got what they deserved. To provide some backstory this person has openly sneered at people who have been struggling in their marriages. She has stood by her husband through his many affairs and castigated other women for ending marriages where they had been cheated on.

she has flatly denied that her life was anything other than idyllic, made a comment about “poor genes” when my sisters child was diagnosed with autism- that resulted in a very bad argument between her and I. There have been countless instances of cruelty and nastiness. A mutual friend was left nearly suicidal after a bereavement - this person accused her of being weak. Awful

I have just heard that her husband has left her- for someone she knows no less. Whilst part of me berates myself for feeling any satisfaction at her situation I can’t help it as she has caused such pain for years.

i feel I should be more generous of spirit - given the time of year- but I just cant.

For some reason I feel like confessing it here will ease my conscience in some way 😳.

anyone sense have karma stories?

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Tigertigertigertiger · 19/12/2023 19:31

There's no such thing as karma.
Good and bad things happen to everyone.
And no one is all bad or all good

LadyWithLapdog · 19/12/2023 19:34

Schadenfreude. Yes, we’ve all felt it, sometimes in secret.

MaggieNextDoor · 19/12/2023 19:35

She sounds like a desperately unhappy woman, pretending to all and sundry her life was blissful, when it was an open secret she was married to a cheater. Her comments about poor genes are unforgivable though, and I'm not surprised you feel a certain measure of satisfaction at her downfall.

I was bullied at work by a female manager for a couple of years, a long time ago, before I realised the only way of resolving the problem was to find a new job. I must admit I did feel a twinge of glee when I heard she'd fallen off a camel in Tunisia and broken her ankle. And she hadn't taken out medical insurance. Yes, I am truly evil. No, I didn't contribute to her GoFundMe.

Barlow11 · 19/12/2023 19:59

Yes she’s quite a character- as she puts it. She appointed herself as the Katie Hopkins of the group - as she ‘says what everyone else is thinking’.

never mind that no one thinks the way she does. I was positively beaming when I heard the news! She is related to me via marriage- I have spent so many occasions biting my tongue and trying to ignore her.

her husband always seemed so meek compared to her - I was shocked to learn of the affairs tbh. I only feel sorry for him now. She will punish him forever. She was due to attend various gatherings over the last few weeks which she didn’t show up to. Then the story leaked out.

I just know there will be a queue of people wanting to serve her a taste of her own medicine and relishing it I just never imagined I’d be one of them. I am though. After her comment about my DN I’ve been dying for it.

I only hope I can keep quiet when I do run into her.

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gamerchick · 19/12/2023 20:07

Keep quiet IRL. Let it all out on here. No good comes of gloating and I doubt it'll make you feel better to do it. Let the queue do it.

Permanentchange · 19/12/2023 20:11

I don't have a karma story, and I wish all the time that I was mature enough to rise above holding a huge grudge; but a few years ago an ex collegue was a real bitch to me and I still hold out hope that one day everybody will see her for the snake she is!

Any suggestions on how to 'let it go' are very welcome.

Barlow11 · 19/12/2023 20:14

gamer you are so right. I’m planning to be cordial but cool - secretly though I’ll be saying all sorts. I get that she must be utterly miserable inside and that a bigger person would have sympathy I just dislike her so much that I can’t.

her children are grown and appear to be in good relationships- they are nice people. A mutual friend has said she will cover her with sympathy when she meets her. Pity is something she will not be able to bear.

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CatamaranViper · 19/12/2023 20:15

LadyWithLapdog · 19/12/2023 19:34

Schadenfreude. Yes, we’ve all felt it, sometimes in secret.

That's schaaaaaaaaaadenfreude
People taking pleasure in yo' pain

Possiblynotever · 19/12/2023 20:29

I need suggestions as to how to let go.
I was treated horribly by a former boss. He was absolutely vicious and cruel, and he did a lot of harm. My career was basically destroyed by him, as we used to work in a very specialised area.I was a high flyer and found myself without a job and with a very young child.
I did not resign due to him, but because I was asked to sign off a project I did not believe in which I thought it could have potential issues.
It did, 35 people died.
He is now facing a potential 5 years' term in prison. He is totally unrelated to the project, but for a twist of fate, he is in.
I suspect he finds himself in this situation as he was vicious to a lot of other people.
I am horrified by this, but a small voice in me keeps repeating "you get what you deserve".
Help me let go.

ThePenguinIsDrunk · 19/12/2023 20:32

YABU - mainly because that's not how Karma works!

2Old2Tango · 19/12/2023 20:36

A colleague of mine was treated badly throughout her 30+ year marriage. Her H was both emotionally and financially abusive. Wanted her to abort their second child because he didn't want it (she kept it). He was just awful in so many ways. He's going through his third lot of cancer and this final one is now terminal. He's late 50s and no, I don't feel sorry for him.

Karmakamelion · 19/12/2023 20:36

@ThePenguinIsDrunk yes it is

Karmakamelion · 19/12/2023 20:38

Karma (/ˈkɑːrmə/, from Sanskrit: कर्म, IPA: [ˈkɐɾmɐ] ⓘ; Pali: kamma) is a concept of action, work, or deed, and its effect or consequences.[1] In Indian religions, the term more specifically refers to a principle of cause and effect, often descriptively called the principle of karma, wherein individual's intent and actions (cause) influence their future (effect):[2] Good intent and good deeds contribute to good karma and happier rebirths, while bad intent and bad deeds contribute to bad karma and bad rebirths. In some scripture, however, there is no link between rebirths and karma.[3][4] Karma is often misunderstood as fate, destiny, or predetermination.[5]

Indian religions - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_religions

ThePenguinIsDrunk · 19/12/2023 20:50

@Karmakamelion exactly - to happier rebirths. Karma isn't something instant that happens within one lifetime.

Barlow11 · 19/12/2023 20:56

possibly that sounds awful. I totally get why you would feel the way you do though. To have had to withstand the treatment you did and leave to protect your integrity was so gutsy. As for him - to have had any link to the death of 35 people must impact him fundamentally- I couldn’t live with that .

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SunsetsAndSandwiches · 19/12/2023 21:03

I had a truly "wicked stepmother" in my life for six years. I don't want to out myself with the specific story, but essentially she did something that definitely crossed a line and I was the one who found out about it. I told my dad and it gave him the perfect excuse to end their marriage (he was already unhappy but was worried about ending things due to the financial side of things) and kick her out of the house. It was very satisfying to know that she had brought about her own misery (she wanted to stay because he allowed her to be a kept woman).

If this woman's STBXH seems nice but has had affairs, maybe he was miserable but has taken a long time to pluck up the courage to leave. I still don't condone cheating, but sometimes it is less "bad" than others.

Barlow11 · 19/12/2023 21:19

sunsets I imagine the husband in this scenario has had a miserable existence. Part of me thinks good for him - he had a chance to escape and took it. The lady he is now with I have met quite a few times and has always been lovely albeit very shy.

good on you though for telling your dad!! She was toxic from all accounts

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Owlplant · 19/12/2023 21:29

A man once said something really horrible to my partner It really damaged her confidence professionally. 4 years later and it still creeps in. We found out later that he had fallen down the stairs at work at broke multiple bones requiring operations and a long recovery. I'm glad. Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke. I hope it still hurts.

Barlow11 · 19/12/2023 22:30

my phone is red hot with messages from our group WhatsApp. One of the ladies called to her home after meeting one of her children in town- she hardly got to say hello before she was given short shrift. Told not to call again without an invite. She was livid by all accounts.

i can’t imagine how awful it must be to have your DH leave you and to feel that you can’t unburden to anyone. She has well and truly burned any bridge left.

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Allwelcone · 19/12/2023 22:42

It's like the thing ypu most fear or are most judgemental about coming true.
Poor woman yes I actually feel sorry for her and hope she gets through grows up to be a better person.

FallingStar21 · 19/12/2023 23:00

You are kind, @Allwelcone
And that is indeed the great benefit of some "misfortunes": they teach thoughtfulness, humility, compassion. A different perspective which is much needed for some people - if they don't experience it themselves, they'll never learn or grow. Some experience them and still don't learn, so there'll be more lessons to come.

Karmakamelion · 20/12/2023 00:06

@ThePenguinIsDrunk it can happen within this lifetime or the next. I promise I know what I'm talking about. It's one of the basics of my faith!

Lottapianos · 20/12/2023 08:29

'There's no such thing as karma.
Good and bad things happen to everyone.
And no one is all bad or all good'

Totally agree. She does sound like a very unpleasant person though and I'm not judging you one bit for indulging in a touch of schadenfreude

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