To send medical bill to the bar where I was injured?

[Mar124]

Unfortunately somebody threw a glass in a crowded pub at the weekend, and my friend and I were wrong place wrong time! It hit us both, but it went in my eye. Got most out, was brought to A&E by staff (they were so helpful). The wait was very long, so I checked out at urgent care instead. Anyway, long story short I’ve now to be referred to an ophthalmologist. They said they saw nothing in eye and was probably just scratched/inflamed and gave me drops.

I’m having pain today after work. Last night, no orange dye was put in my eye when using the lamp and that’s needed to check for corneal abrasion. So I asked about it and they referred me on. The bouncer on the night, told me to send all medical bills and the pub will cover them. The manager gave us their number and have been in text contact checking if my friend and I are okay. But no mention of the bill. AIBU to mention that I was told it was covered? I feel awkward being like here is my bill, but it was offered to me on the night!

Well there's nothing to lose by mentioning it to them, worse they'll say surely is along the lines of nope the bouncer wasn't in a position to say that. Even though it doesn't appear to be their fault, they might do just as a courtesy but I wouldn't expect it tbh. Just ask!

You have a right to safety in a public licenced premises. I can guarantee if you contacted a solicitor they would say to put a claim in. The bar would be delighted if they got away with only paying for your €200/300 bill. I'm Ireland based too and have seen people claim for less than this.
Definitely contact the bar and ask them to get the manager/owner to contact you. The bigger issue is that if they have taken advice in the meantime they may have been advised not to make any payments as it would be interpreted as an admission of guilt.

Send it by all means they might pay it they might not
I’d presume they’d have to be negligent to be liable doesn’t so as though it was there fault

Yeah in England all medically necessary procedures, operations, GP visits, scans etc are free at the point of access and everyone working pays national insurance from their wages each month usually around 13% of earnings.

Prescriptions cost a maximum of 110ish per year no matter how many you need or you can pay for them individually if you don't have regular meds which costs around £10 each.

Dental care you pay for but if you are lucky enough to find an NHS dentist, you pay in bands. Its free for children and pregnant women.

They are at fault. They are selling alcohol so they are responsible for making sure people they are serving are not getting intoxicated and becoming a risk.

€60 for a gp. That’s shocking. It’s €25 in France and the government pay back 70%.
Mind if someone can afford to drink in Ireland then they can afford their medical bills.

Surely if you didn't get seen in A&E you don't get charged for it? If you have been referred by the HSE for the opthalmology appointment you won't be charged for it. Have you chosen to go private? I'd probably give the bill if they said they would pay but if they dropped you to A&E I would imagine they were only expecting €100 because everything else except for any medication should be free.

The bar will have public liability to cover I codebts that happen on their premises

*incidents

Ring them up and ask? I think they probably would cover small bills just for their reputation, and you not making a big deal about how you got injured there on social media. If they find the actual person responsible they should pay but that may be difficult and they may not have funds.

It was €50 in Ireland when I last needed a GP (last summer), and her other numbers are quite wrong too. I don't know if her local hospital has different rates, I thought they were set nationally. I also never saw an urgent care department in Ireland, it was A+E or GP. This whole post is very odd to read, especially her assumption that the UK would be the same. I've never met anyone in Ireland who didn't know about the free care in the North or in GB. The UK's famous for it over there because most people have at least one (and usually several) friends/relatives living/working in UK.

I don't know if insurance is different in Ireland too but.i. England the public liability insurance would only kick in if the business was at fault and the excess would be way more than a couple of hundred pounds/euros

Most people get free treatment.

I would assume the op is referencing the private options for urgent care, VHI etc.

Now? We've had the NHS for 75 years, is that not generally known outside the UK?

Just send them the bill with a covering note saying they asked you to this. You’re not going to loose anything by doing this. If they pay, well and good. If not, you haven’t lost anything.

the Garda are not going to close a bar to investigate a glass been thrown!

Why not, that would be classed as potential GBH with intent, in England and Wales. Comes with a maximum life sentence.

One person asks what's a medical card in Ireland, they get answered normally. OP doesn't know about the UK system and all hell breaks loose! 🙄 I wouldn't have a clue about their system either, also from Ireland! Find it very hard to believe throwing a glass gets a life sentence in jail too but anyway.... Back to the actual question at hand! OP I would send them the bill and just put a nicely worded short email with it. Defo worth a try anyway!

@PaddyIrishWoman love it!! 100 percent well said. I’ve no idea the in and out of England’s health care systems, nor am I obliged to!! Someone above said ‘this post is odd to read’ and ‘her numbers are off’ like wtf? Very strange response!

@SisterMichaelsHabit Do you know how odd your post sounds? It’s not mine that’s odd! No way am I obliged to know the in and out of England’s healthcare system……50 for a GP?! you mustn’t have been unwell for decades lucky you!!

Genuine question, do people in Ireland not know what the NHS is? Am I wrong to think that's kind of general knowledge like we all know that in the US you pay for healthcare even if we don't know the specifics of how

@VisionsOfSplendour Oh dear. Now, in the context of that sentence means, I’m curious now. As in, this discussion sparked my curiosity. Maybe don’t comment smartly, until you check you’ve got the syntax 😊

I'm sorry this happened to you. The pub should have public liability insurance (though not sure what the rules are in Ireland) so they can pay your bills using that, or just reimburse you directly if you're happy with that.
Will it affect your ability to work or drive for a while? So mean you miss out on pay or have to pay for transport? Or leave you out of pocket in other ways, e.g booked events you can't attend or get your money back for? They should cover all your costs incurred because of the incident.
Do you know if it's been reported to the Garda?

Yeah it sounds like the OP is going private. She went to a Laya clinic or something. She won't get charged for A&E as she didn't actually use A&E and unless she has also chosen to go private with the opthalmology that would be free too. I don't really know why the OP is being cagey about the fact that she has chosen to go private rather than public.

My GP is also €50, the out of hours GP is €70.

@OuiOuiKitty There was no other option- you don’t mess with eye sight and my eye had to be seen. GP was closed. I paid out of pocket; I don’t have private health insurance. Similarly I need the dye in my through an ophthalmologist quickly, so I’ll be going wherever I can tomorrow. Nothing ‘cagey’ about that.