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Employment expenses working from home

66 replies

Winterinwonder · 06/12/2023 19:36

Apologies for posting on this thread. I simply need some urgent assistance as I cannot find the answers on HMRC website.

I’ve made a claim for tax relief on employment expenses as I work from home. The total amount is £4,498.00. How much will I get back as a rebate?

When you submit it just asks where you want the rebate to go to and that’s it. There’s no guidance notes at all that I can see on my login.

Any help would be really appreciated.

OP posts:
Housebuyer37 · 06/12/2023 20:18

Winterinwonder · 06/12/2023 20:12

I am employed. My employer is is 210 miles away each way. I have receipts for everything and no the employer does not refund anything. Working from home is within my contract

You're taking the piss, this should get flagged and any repayment stopped. If it does go through and you manage to get a repayment of tax it will probably get eventually flagged and you'll be expected to pay the repayment back plus penalties.

The penalties are based on behaviours and you may get away with being deemed careless although my personal opinion is you are deliberately trying to reclaim tax you are.not entitled to.

Neriah · 06/12/2023 20:18

Winterinwonder · 06/12/2023 20:12

I am employed. My employer is is 210 miles away each way. I have receipts for everything and no the employer does not refund anything. Working from home is within my contract

Good luck with that. You chose an employer that far away. My employer is 9 miles away and can't provide the reasonable adjustments to work anywhere other than home - and I can't claim a penny.

mrsbyers · 06/12/2023 20:18

The argument about the tax payer is irrelevant , if an employer had paid the expenses then they would pay less tax so swings and roundabouts

captaincalamari12 · 06/12/2023 20:21

You've got no chance.

maddiemookins16mum · 06/12/2023 20:21

I WFH, I’m submitting a 3 year P87 form after Christmas for 20% tax relief on wfh expenses for the following years.
19/20 £208 (it did not increase to 312 until the 20/21 year)
20/21 £312
21/22 £312
22/23 0 - rules changed as per a previous poster mentioned.
I don’t know anyone who is PAYE who can claim tax relief on those kinds of expenses Op.

Plus, large expenses claims go on a tax return, these ‘smaller’ claims go on a P87 and are limited to 2.5K a year max.
The HMRC rules re ‘uniforms’ are, I think, a flat rate expense of £60.00 per tax year for the cleaning of them.

Pololo · 06/12/2023 20:23

Where do you work that your employer makes you work from home in a uniform??

Riverstep · 06/12/2023 20:25

Your expenses amount sounds far too high. Are you sure you read the guidance properly?

YogiYogiBear · 06/12/2023 20:27

Might be worth getting advice from the finance department at work on what you are entitled to.

user1497207191 · 06/12/2023 20:27

Claiming half your utilities? No chance!

just claim the £4 per week

ThisMama1 · 06/12/2023 20:31

I’m self employed & can only claim for utilities for one room of the house which I work in so it’s the daily/weekly rate divided by how many rooms in the house to get the daily rate for that room. I can’t claim full broadband & phone costs because we’d have that cost anyway as the whole household has access to the broadband. If anything the phone/broadband should be a proportioned expense via your employer not tax relief. I doubt you’re going to get back anything nr to what you’ve tried to claim on

TheHateIsNotGood · 06/12/2023 20:33

If you're PAYE, no chance OP, presumably you get holiday pay, sick pay, pension contributions, etc. If you wore a uniform there used to be a minimal deduction using your tax code. If you think your hard done by then bargain with your employer.

If you're self-employed then there are sliding scale deduction %s based on the amount of hours you use your home as a workplace. Not as much as many imagine.

Have you been asked by HMRC to complete a Tax Return? Because otherwise whydo you wish to backdate 4 years if you normally complete an Annual Tax Return.

BloodyAdultDC · 06/12/2023 20:36

I'm struggling to think of an employer who insists on an employee wearing 'industry specidic' clothing to wfh.

It'll hardly be steel-toecap boots or safety gear (which should be provided by or claimed from the employer). Likewise some sort of uniform - but can't see it for wfh employees.

OP you're taking the piss - you're not paying to travel 210 miles each way to the office, should HMRC off-set your travel expenses you're NOT paying?

If you are employed your employer pays your expenses. WiFi, heating etc are your responsibility and any marginal increase in those costs due to wfh should be considered as a compromise that you're not needing to travel to the office instead.

Crushed23 · 06/12/2023 21:14

Pololo · 06/12/2023 20:23

Where do you work that your employer makes you work from home in a uniform??

I’m trying to work this out too.

PatriciaHolm · 06/12/2023 21:19

To answer the original question, FWIW, what you get back depends on your tax rate. If your pay 20%, then you get 20% of your claim back in tax. However, it's likely a claim the size of yours would be investigated, as it's significantly in excess of what HMRC would normally deem reasonable for working from home.

Clothes - you can claim a flat rate for specific uniform as detailed below
Check how much tax relief you can claim for uniforms, work clothing and tools - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk) or a flat rate of £60 for other uniform, but not for general clothing or for buying/cleaning everyday clothes you wear for work, even if your employer requests a specific colour.

You can claim for business calls, but not for broadband if it is ever used for other purposes than work. You can claim for heating/lighting that part of your home you use for work, for the time spent working in it - this is likely to be less than 15% of the total bill.

Check how much tax relief you can claim for uniforms, work clothing and tools

Use this list to check if you can claim a fixed amount of tax relief (also known as 'flat rate expenses') for your work expenses if you're an employee.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/job-expenses-for-uniforms-work-clothing-and-tools

Parker231 · 06/12/2023 21:24

If you are employed - your claim for business related expenses is to your employer.

If you are self employed or work through your own Limited company, there are different amounts you can offset against your tax liability.

Jztbrzzsy · 06/12/2023 21:28

I didnt think you could claim like this unless you're self employed?

grayhairdontcare · 06/12/2023 21:30

Well you can claim but they are not going to pay!
If you can't afford to work from home then you need an office job

Changingplace · 06/12/2023 21:40

Don’t be daft, what on earth made you think you could claim this much back? You're not getting anywhere near it.

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 06/12/2023 21:54

If only........

Canisaysomething · 06/12/2023 22:04

You can’t find the information because what you are trying to do is impossible. Step away from the tax returns for self employed people or those with separate earnings and go speak to your employer.

Tarantella6 · 06/12/2023 22:13

As an employee your expenses need to be wholly exclusively and necessarily for businesses. Necessarily is the one that tends to cause the problem.

You are wearing clothes because general public decency requires you to not be naked - not 100% necessary for work. Your utilities and broadband are not necessarily for work, if you didn't work, would you turn off the gas and electricity? Obviously not.

Womencanlift · 06/12/2023 22:14

You wouldn’t get a rebate for wearing your clothes at the office so why do you think you should get it for wearing them at home?

Humbugg · 06/12/2023 22:16

This thread is hilarious!!!

Doggymummar · 06/12/2023 22:17

You claim £4 per week if your employer doesn't pay you WFH allowance. I have a ltd company and can claim more I just let the accountant deal with that.

BitOutOfPractice · 06/12/2023 22:25

Sorry, can’t help, just adding “pyjamas, £100” to my tax return