To expect a child to read with a grown up at least a couple of times in the first term of reception?

[Benibidibici]

DC is late aug birthday so only just four on starting school. Happy there and enjoying it etc, settled in fine.

They are never heard read by any adult. Teacher has acknowledged this.

Have found out this week some kids are reading with an adult one on one three or four times a week.

I know they have to focus on the ones who need a bit of help but come the fuck on, how does a little 4 year old feel if they never get that little bit of one on one time with a grown up and others get loads? Its not just about the reading - its about that bit of attention, the teacher or TA learning who they are and how they respond. Surely they can fit in my DC once or twice a term if they can find 3 or 4 times a week for other kids. Dc hates never getting picked to go and read. :(

The imbalance is getting worse and worse thanks to lack of funding, and is only going to continue. Please complain. But to your MP, not the school.

When my kids were preschool I read to them everyday . One DC loves books , went to Uni . The other much to my annoyance does not read and can't understand my love of books . 🤷‍♂️.

I used to do this , very rewarding. I also managed to spot which kids needed glasses .

I wouldn't be happy with this either. You should raise this with the teacher.

You're being ridiculous.

Fairness is not about treating everyone the same. The kids who are getting extra time are not getting it because the teacher likes them better, they're getting it because they need it. Be thankful that your child does not.

Schools sadly don't have the resources to give every child as much 1 on 1 time as they might like, so they have to prioritise.

This is really poor practice & I think you're right to be annoyed. Did the teacher say that they're doing group/guided reading instead? That way they are still hearing them read.

You seem to see the reading time as being about having his share of teacher attention. He undoubtedly gets attention in other ways and at other times. One to one reading with a child who is ahead and is read with at home is not going to be prioritised. Interventions such as 1.1 reading is not for show, it is because a child needs that attention to learn to read. Your ds is doing well so that intervention is probably not required. I would imagine that group guided reading is working fine for him. You sound like YOU feel slighted that he hasn't had this 1.1 teacher time. If everyone is heard in this way then other things can't be done. Some of these other things are probably more beneficial for your ds.

there should never be such an imbalanced split of attention

but it isnt about giving them attention. It is to catch up those who are behind. It is to best get all children to the minimum standard.

I am shocked at most of the reolies making assumptions about your child, saying it is parent responsibility to volunteerr to read to children in school.

All children have a right to an education. Reading is a huge part of this. If the teacher has never heard him read, how can he be assessed? Each class has a teacher and at least a part time TA, regardless of other funding constraints, each child should get some one to one reading time with a teacher.

Your child also notices this and is upset by this. That is also important. I cannot see how this can be justified. All pupils are assesed and their levels of improvement assessed. If there is no benchmark, it isimpossible to trust the level of improvement.

Why does Every Child Matters.. not include yours.. I would feel as you do.

If, for example, your child's school follows Read Write Inc or a similar scheme, then they have a daily phonics and reading lesson for an hour in a smallish group (often 6-8 children) and in this time the adult will teach a phonics lesson, then all the children read, as the adult works around the group, listening to pairs read to each other, discussing their reading and supporting children 1:1. This is what happens in my school. Children aren't listened to in addition to this unless they are falling behind, and then they have a daily 1:1 catch-up session at a different time. There simply isn't time to then also listen to everyone else read 1:1 on top of this, and there isn't a need to if children are making good progress (and are reading daily at home too).

Perhaps the children who get read with several times a week need 1:1 attention from an adult more than yours does @Benibidibici ? It doesn’t take a huge amount of imagination to guess why that might be.

My son isn't at school yet but we read several books to him every night and his level of comprehension is very good for his age. I plan to continue reading with him every day at an age appropriate level throughout his childhood.

There are a lot of kids whose parents don't or can't give them that sort of support at home. I think it's only right that the kids who aren't reading with adults outside school are prioritised. And I'm not sure that kids who are doing plenty of reading with their parents outside of school will get any particular benefit from reading to an adult in school.

I wouldn't encourage your son to feel hard done by. He probably doesn't care at all, and if he does raise the subject with you you can just explain that he is lucky he gets to do so much reading at home and is so good at it, and the support at school is for children who aren't so lucky at home.

Perhaps the other children are getting additional help so need the limited time available?

Some of the replies on this thread are bonkers. It's like some people are happy with the absolute minimum standards for their child.

At DD's 80 pupil primary there were at least 5 volunteers who came in to read to and listen to the littlies each week. They were mostly retired and I remember DD loved the 1:1. The fact that she could read before she started school was totally irrelevant imo, it's not a race to the bottom, or shouldn't be. Does your child's school have volunteers like this? If not could you suggest it?

It's like some people are happy with the absolute minimum standards for their child.

I'm pretty sure that no one is happy about it, but that's how it is right now in education, and it doesn't look like it's going together better any time soon.

We do group reading, so about six in a group. They read the book between them each time. We do this four times a week with each group, even the ones that can read without help. This is in Scotland.

My eldest used to read a page a day with his teacher and then bring that book home to read with us. He was streets ahead of his brothers (who started reading when the Literacy Hour was introduced) and is still a voracious reader, whereas his brothers aren't.

Is the Literacy Hour still a thing in England?

This. My mum used to volunteer at my school too.

She would mostly read with the children who were from the most deprived backgrounds as their parents never read with them so those children were a priority.

I will continue to make sure that every child in my class has one to one attention every day from me.
I will also continue to ensure that it is done on children’s needs and NOT what an entitled parent, and yes I am looking at YOU op, believes the needs of the children are.

30 children and if they’re lucky, two members of staff, children in care,SEN children, behaviour management, ill children who should be at home, ill staff who should be at home, children still in nappies, demanding parents. I’m surprised any reception class has a teacher! Bloody thankless job.

Theres lots of ways in which schools are currently not even offering the bare minimum, its way below that because there simply isnt the resources available

You then go on to say that there are 5 volunteers who do this!!! Thats exactly the point, this can only happen because there are volunteers, if they werent there, your school wouldnt be able to offer so much reading time either

OP hasnt answered either that she is doing reading with her child. I could read before I went to school because books were really important in our house. We were working class, not well off but my mum introduced books and reading very very early. Hopefully OP is doing this

Also Im not sure OP is talking about the same thing, she is talking about attention but equally talking about reading time.

I think I know where you’re coming from OP. It’s twenty years since I left school and I still remember that some children got a lot of attention from the teacher and others got very little. As an adult I understand the possible reasons for this but as a child I’m not sure I did, I just got the signal I was less important.

Could you politely raise it with the school and maybe ask if they’ve considered asking for volunteers if the teacher doesn’t have time to read with everyone? Not all schools are able to get volunteers but it’s worth a try.

YANBU. there's no excuse for it.

The school ask for volunteers and do have at least one who goes in most days. I know her well and i know my son hasn't ever read with her either.

Of course im reading with my DC daily at home.

This is not about my DCs reading. Its about how children do notice this sort of thing and feel less important and less noticed than the children who go regularly.

This is how UK education is now.

I found it a bit weird as my son is the same. The TA has written in his book twice since September. I thought they would be listening to him at least once a week, we do his reading every day, sometimes morning and night so he is getting plenty of practice but I just expected more reading at school.