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sufork · 30/11/2023 00:57

I try to communicate with DH about what's going on in the family/home, I feel he rarely does the same and expects me just to know things and/or read his mind. When I've brought this up, he says the communication from me to him is optional/my choice and he's choosing to do something different, his solution is "you can stop too if you want".

A conversation between us often feels one way, he'll often not respond at all to the things I say. Even if I were to say something like "I've left you some dinner in the oven" or "I dropped the keys at your mother's", often he won't say thanks, he just doesn't say anything. I have always found this difficult and I think it's getting worse.

When I try to talk to DH about anything beyond the most superficial/practical thing, he usually wants to shut down the conversation as soon as possible, he'll leave the room/go upstairs and has asked that I don't "follow" him when he does so, so it usually ends the conversation before it's started. If I'm annoyed about something I might "follow" him anyway and if I do, he'll say something like "can you stop talking", "go away", or put his fingers in his ears(!). I might ask "when can we talk" or something trying to compromise between me wanting to talk and him not wanting to, but he won't usually give an answer beyond "not now" or "do we have to talk all the time" (to the most extreme response "I never want to talk about this" about something very innocuous/mundane).

Nine times out of ten if I ask "can we talk?" he'll say no. If he says yes, it tends to be confrontational, I feel I'm doing all the work on trying to build a common understanding. If I don't understand what he meant by something, he'll often refuse to clarify, either repeating exactly the same words several times or saying "work it out" / "I'm not doing all the work for you" etc. Sometimes he'll mumble and be hard to follow but if I didn't hear something, he'll just refuse to say it again "I'm not repeating myself" / "Pay attention!" and so on.

He says I'm always over-analyzing everything and wanting to talk everything to death instead of letting things go. There is a grain of truth in that. I'm someone who likes to talk through everything to get to a better understanding. He point blank refuses to engage in that. I'm starting to doubt myself, what's acceptable, what's best and what's normal? I often feel that if I didn't make the effort we'd drift apart very quickly. But I think I am quite needy. And maybe it is better to communicate less and just to leave things be? Can I/should I change?

I appreciate this message is a bit all over the place and I'm not really sure what I'm asking. I suppose as a first step, it's AIBU to want to talk more?

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sufork · 01/12/2023 17:34

Sounds like you are too focused on your relationship. Do you have friends, interests or a job?

This thread has been revelatory and a big help in thinking things through.

To answer the question, I used to have a very active and varied social/interests/work life. This has been eroded gradually but surely, mainly on his insistence, but also through my acquiescence in an effort to pacify him. Cliché alert, this is something I never thought I would do. But I was out too much, working too much, seeing people he didn't like, not prioritising "us" etc. I started off shedding the stuff he REALLY didn't like and sticking with the more acceptable elements, like work (I bring in most), but over Covid and now that we're starting a family (something I wanted more than him), it feels like there's nothing left, and not even work at the moment. I think MrsTerryPratchett's analysis is probably fair, my world has been shrunk to this one relationship, and now I'm expecting it to meet all my needs. With hindsight it's obvious that was never going to lead to a good place. I need to take my share of the responsibility for that, I'm not just blaming him. And maybe it's possible to reverse this shrunken world without losing the relationship, but it really won't be easy. In the short term I want to make the best of the situation at home and not cause either of us too much torment.

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sufork · 02/12/2023 09:43

At the risk of talking to my self... After reading all your messages a few times and thinking more about it, in the short term I'm going to try and

  • stop asking to talk

  • communicate less with him

  • stop going the extra mile

  • work hard at relaxing and being less intense about things

  • rekindle other friendships

  • develop hobbies

The last two will take time and there isn't much of that. But I can take small steps. The first three I'll find hard because instinctively I do the opposite, so I'll have to constantly remind myself.

Does this sound OK? Any further advice or thoughts would be much appreciated.

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DisplayPurposesOnly · 02/12/2023 09:51

When you feel you've implemented that list, stand back (metaphorically speaking) and reassess - is this the right relationship for you?

I feel that you are taking too much 'blame' on yourself (he isolated you so he can ignore you!) and it's definitely right to take back control of your own responses and reactions. When you've got back that control, then what?

Oh, and don't have any more children unless you are utterly convinced your relationship is balanced and works for you and your current child.

sufork · 02/12/2023 11:01

Thanks DisplayPO, I will do.

I'm sure it's good advice but your last paragraph is hard to swallow because I really want more children and time is running out, starting from scratch feels like it will take a long time, and maybe too long.

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