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11 year old DS already suspended from secondary

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HistoryT · 29/11/2023 22:55

DS has ADHD diagnosed about a year ago. He takes 15mg of meds but I'm really not convinced they help. It's difficult because he only takes them on school days and while I do think that in the beginning they helped him stick at a piece of work for longer, I think they may also make him feel more agressive. I'm completely torn over whether to continue with them or stop.

He was bullied in his primary school. He annoys other kids, is immature and tries to get a reaction or 'stimulation' from interactions with other kids. He can also be kind, sweet, full of love and very thoughtful.

Secondary school was good for the first few weeks and now he seems to have got a reputation for being annoying and a bit of a clown and other children are dismissing him, saying derogatory things, putting him down etc. And so his behaviour has deteriorated, I think because he feels bad inside and it comes out as ager. He's extremely reactive and picks fights, hurts other kids. He crossed the line this week by head locking a girl and received a serious sanction, then he went on to do the same thing again a couple of days later. I don't know how to help him and scared he will have to leave his school. Current appraoch is to wrap him up in support and show him we're on his side, here to support, but at the same time his actions are so entirely unacceptable. He can't seem to take responsbilty or stop himself but is remorseful - but then he'll say things that show he believes the only way for him to respond is by being physical and showing others he is stronger than them. For context, he's average to small and defintely one of the shorter ones in his year.

What do we do to help him? Tried counselling but he tells them everything is fine and says he doesn't want to talk to anyone (he opens up to us a little bit but is mostly a ball of frustration and anger). He doesn't behave violently at home.

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PrinceHaz · 30/11/2023 17:35

Would you be in the position to home educate? School is going to be such hard work for him to manage at least until he matures a bit.

anon2134 · 30/11/2023 19:20

That's a very low dose.

Ds is on x3 that and is 12.

Ask for non stimulants. There is a currently a shortage but should be sorted by next month.

Harridge74 · 30/11/2023 19:26

Father should be showing the way to behave and act as a young adult.

HistoryT · 01/12/2023 12:00

Our current doctor says she would definitely not go above 20mg at his age/weight, and has felt unsupportive throughout. So we're trying to switch doctors at the moment. We'll explore alternative meds hopefully with a supportive doctor.

For context and in response to those comments about not attacking someone bigger, the child was a girl but stands a full head and shoulders taller than him. DS is shorter for his age and slight. It's not about overpowering those smaller or weaker than him, it's about him not even considering that. He has been badly hurt by other children and doesn't seem to learn from it.

I'm searching for audio books aimed at his age group, about anger management. He'll listen to audio books every night so that could add to what we're working on already. Struggling to find something aimed at kids/early teens - not 3-5 year olds and not adults. Thanks for the book recommended up thread and all the advice.

Of course we give consequences at home but he was in such a state about what he'd done (crying, raging, shaking) that it wasn't the time to load more on him. In a couple of days we'll deal with it and give him a consequence, when he's calmer and able to listen and understand.

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NameChange259 · 02/12/2023 23:17

Not a popular thought but our son was so stressed and under pressure and constantly being got at by everyone we took it v easy at home. Kept consequences for problems at school at school. Took responsibilities, clubs away - anything that caused friction. we gave him a really comfortable environment and let him have lots of ‘space’ on his electrics.

if life is hard every day for 16 hours, in all sorts of ways and your only respite is sleep - it’s really tough. Taking it easy on him meant that our stress levels massively improved too, which meant we were more resilient to school stress, better able to problem solve with him etc.

autism and ADHD are disabilities. They don’t fit into ‘normal’ and it’s tough to reframe your expectations of a neurodivergent child.

NameChange259 · 02/12/2023 23:18

And my son was just over 3.5 stone and was given 30mg methylphenidate with a 5mg top up for the evening.

the difference between 20 and 30 was striking!

curaçao · 03/12/2023 00:32

"he was in such a state about what he'd done (crying, raging, shaking) that it wasn't the time to load more on him. "

"Current appraoch is to wrap him up in support and show him we're on his side,"

"the child was a girl but stands a full head and shoulders taller than him"

"for context, he's average to small and defintely one of the shorter ones in his year"

OP you are part of the problem! you are sending mixed messages!
-you are minimising his violence because of his physical size
-you are not 100% clearly and decisively condemning his unacceptable behaviour from the off, and giving him timely consequences!

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