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To confront my 'friend' about his behaviour?

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mayaroseanne · 27/11/2023 20:03

Hard to explain this but will try:

I dated a man briefly in 2018.

We remained friends after the break-up and it didn't take long for it to morph into a friends with benefits situation, which it remains today. I know the FWB set-up gets a bad rap, but it's mostly a healthy, harmless situation for us both. We love each other a ton, but not in a romantic way.

It's not just sex. We've both helped each other out a ton over the years. My kids adore him, he's always there if I have an emergency and vice versa.

However....

He has an extremely unusual personality that I struggle to explain. He seems to lack empathy and it's hard to interact with him sometimes, almost like talking to someone with a language barrier.

The best way to describe him is 'awkward'.

We been socialising together a lot lately and I have realised that, in social situations, all the awkwardness goes out the window and he turns into this outgoing, enigmatic man, and everyone adores him.

As soon as we're alone again, he goes back into his shell and becomes very introverted. He's like a different person.

Even when we're in a big group, he's Mr Personality to everyone else and still awkward and stand-offish with me.

We went to a friend's wedding two weeks ago and she just called me to tell me how moved she was by what he wrote in their guestbook. It's like bloody Shakespeare. On the rare years he's remembered my birthday, he's written no more than four words in a hastily scribbled card.

I'm a bit tired of it. I can't work out why he's the life and soul of the party around people he barely knows but like an awkward, sulky teenager when it's just he and I, and yet has maintained our friendship over so many years.

Now that said, on two occasions I've accidentally overheard him talking to close friends of mine, about me, and he speaks so highly of me and says such kind things. I was completely taken aback on both occasions. But never ever to my face.

I cannot work this out at all and am wondering if it's worth discussing with him. It's such an odd situation and the only conclusion I can come up with, is that, despite the longevity of our friendship, he actively dislikes me and is using me for sex.

I don't think this is the case but I can't make head nor tail of it otherwise.

OP posts:
lljkk · 28/11/2023 06:54

er, so which is it:

mostly a healthy, harmless situation for us both. We love each other a ton, but not in a romantic way.

It's not just sex. We've both helped each other out a ton over the years. My kids adore him, he's always there if I have an emergency and vice versa.

/OR/

doesn't treat me well
sulky teenager

I mean, I've had sulky teenagers. They aren't "there for me", the other kids didn't adore the sulky one, and they don't help out a tonne.

AgentJohnson · 28/11/2023 07:01

You are in a relationship with someone who clearly has communication issues. What I find odd is why you have labelled this a fwb situation, when clearly you in a relationship and you have expectations of relationship type behaviour.

mayaroseanne · 28/11/2023 08:40

lljkk · 28/11/2023 06:54

er, so which is it:

mostly a healthy, harmless situation for us both. We love each other a ton, but not in a romantic way.

It's not just sex. We've both helped each other out a ton over the years. My kids adore him, he's always there if I have an emergency and vice versa.

/OR/

doesn't treat me well
sulky teenager

I mean, I've had sulky teenagers. They aren't "there for me", the other kids didn't adore the sulky one, and they don't help out a tonne.

Maybe a bad analogy then! Sullen might be a better description.

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mayaroseanne · 28/11/2023 09:40

AgentJohnson · 28/11/2023 07:01

You are in a relationship with someone who clearly has communication issues. What I find odd is why you have labelled this a fwb situation, when clearly you in a relationship and you have expectations of relationship type behaviour.

I am definitely not in a relationship with him. We have a relationship, in the same sense I do with all my friends, family and colleagues. But we are not in a relationship.

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mayaroseanne · 28/11/2023 09:41

flowerchild2000 · 28/11/2023 05:11

An introvert can muster the energy to act extroverted when they feel the pressure to. It's very exhausting. Similarly, a person with ASD can mask for short durations and it's also exhausting. It could be a number of other things like this. I'm sure he's aware of it on some level, whether he suspects a diagnosis or just knows he's a bit different. There's nothing wrong with talking to him about it, I'm surprised you haven't already. He probably feels comfortable around you and doesn't have the need to mask around you.

I absolutely suspect ASD. I wrote it in my original post and then decided I didn't want to throw diagnoses around that I wasn't qualified to identify.

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OneTC · 28/11/2023 10:51

mayaroseanne · 28/11/2023 09:40

I am definitely not in a relationship with him. We have a relationship, in the same sense I do with all my friends, family and colleagues. But we are not in a relationship.

You love each other a ton and you do things for each other outside just fucking.

You are in an (extremely confusing) relationship and most people wouldn't be cold enough to not let that progress to attachment. FWB relationships work out most of the time heavily in favour of one person

lljkk · 28/11/2023 19:58

He knows your kids well & has your back & you have his. I'd say it's a relationship. There are weaker marriages out there. What would you say to his face if he said all that complimentary stuff to you directly?

Mrgrinch · 28/11/2023 20:13

In my mind the obvious answer is the remove the 'benefits' side of the relationship for a while and see where your friendship stands.

Picklelily99 · 16/03/2024 02:05

Are you sure he's not totally, madly in love with you but feels he has to rein it in to your face because you've made it absolutely clear that a 'relationship' will never happen, so he has to keep pretending he's not into you either???

HappiestSleeping · 16/03/2024 02:30

Picklelily99 · 16/03/2024 02:05

Are you sure he's not totally, madly in love with you but feels he has to rein it in to your face because you've made it absolutely clear that a 'relationship' will never happen, so he has to keep pretending he's not into you either???

This is my guess too.

Noicant · 16/03/2024 07:03

Introvert, I can be really effusive and bubbly but by god is it draining, doubt I am charming or that people are drawn to me but there is quite a difference between my public face and my home face.

Loopytiles · 16/03/2024 07:07

😁@lljkk

Loopytiles · 16/03/2024 07:13

This isn’t a ‘healthy’ FWB situation. You want warm words in birthday cards, to be each other’s ‘go to’ when things happen, for him to ‘cherish’ you in public, make a big effort with you, your DC ‘adore him’ etc.

The ‘awkward’ behaviour is how he is and will be in your relationship. Doesn’t sound fun, whatever the reasons.

Suggest stopping sex and seeing him much less, not relying on him for emergencies etc - to see what he’s like and how you feel about him as a much more distant friend. Or just stop seeing him at all.

Loopytiles · 16/03/2024 07:14

Disagree with posters suggesting he’s more into you than you are him. Sounds the other way round to me!

Copperoliverbear · 16/03/2024 07:20

I suspect ADHD or something similar.

lilsupersparks · 16/03/2024 08:15

My husband is like this. He hates going out with people, meeting people, conversing with people. However when we do do these things he is perfectly fine. He is more socially engaged than me!

He is on calls to his work colleagues all the time and he sounds happy, polite and engaging.

When it comes to home time he can be cold, uncaring and lacking in empathy.

in my opinion he is an introvert. It is tiring for him to be ‘on’ and his comfortable place is home. At least I prefer to think it’s that than he hates me, his wife of 20 years 🤣

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