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Mould should housing pay for beds

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Askingforafriend101 · 26/11/2023 00:21

Hi.
Albu to expect my housing association to pay for replacement beds mattress etc?

My home has penetrative raising damp in 2 rooms downstairs and has damp from room in all 3 bedrooms on one side of house.
The mould spread everywhere and you can wipe down but it's back with a vengeance few days later.

I've had housing out few times to wipe and put on special paint but it xomes back.

My little ones room is worst its all over clothes toys etc... there is no where safe from it

The smell is horrendous 2x children on ventolin and eye drops for itchy eyes (I think it's mould related)

They coming Friday to sort out by wiping and putting new uv paint on and sort guttering and roof but Said I need to get rid of the bed and mattress and wardrobe as mould is soacked.into mdf and will keep returning.

I asked if they going to replace as they already taken 2 carpets and wallpaper strips leaving me to sort which I havent been able to... they said no it's not their responsibility.
I have kids living in something you see on comic relief night!.
I can't get credit or loan etc. How should I go forward as I really don't think they should just be saying get rid

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ickky · 26/11/2023 15:26

Askingforafriend101 · 26/11/2023 13:42

I live in a end terrace house.
The neighbour said her house was full of mould too and some walls were black but she moved few months ago and housing spent around 6 weeks doing her house but I've noticed on the guttering there is a pipe that will pour loads of water for about 5 to 10 seconds every few hours... our guttering is connected when it pours out can see the house get soaked

That pipe is likely from a cold water tank overflow in the loft for refilling the toilet tank etc. It should not overflow on a regular basis. A faulty ballcock in the tank is probably the cause, this happens a lot in hard water areas. They need to inspect the tank, fix it and put an extended pipe on so when it does overflow, it doesn't go down the bricks.

It sounds like your place needs a whole new damp course on the ground floor.

I would push to get the HA to move you, cite the health aspect.

rwalker · 26/11/2023 15:28

MidnightOnceMore · 26/11/2023 15:23

Start your own thread about your mould which is irrelevant to this discussion as the op has rising damp.

Just pointing out mould is necessarily a building problem no thread needed thanks all sorted
you could have structural damp problems downstairs and unrelated condensation mould upstairs
judging by your replies to others post you obviously gave an axe to grind

StarlightLime · 26/11/2023 15:32

MidnightOnceMore · 26/11/2023 01:11

From the government document I linked above:

Landlords must ensure that the accommodation they provide is free from serious hazards, including damp and mould, and that homes are fit for habitation. They must treat cases of damp and mould with the utmost seriousness and act promptly to protect their tenants’ health.
As this guidance also makes clear, tenants should not be blamed for damp and mould. Damp and mould in the home are not the result of ‘lifestyle choices’, and it is the responsibility of landlords to identify and address the underlying causes of the problem, such as structural issues or inadequate ventilation.

It doesn't matter where it is coming from, it is the landlords job to sort it out.

If it's due to poor ventilation, it's for the tenant to ensure the property is properly heated and aired, surely? How can anyone else police that?

Askingforafriend101 · 26/11/2023 15:38

These are the hole things they did but mould still comes back

Mould should housing pay for beds
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JenniferBooth · 26/11/2023 15:43

A lot of rented homes have been retrofitted (wrongly) with cavity wall insulation The contractors get paid for it, the housing associations get funding and all are safe in the knowledge that with the attitudes towards social housing tenants in the UK they can successfully be blamed for any mould issues that will ensue.

JenniferBooth · 26/11/2023 15:44

Again as someone else said it always seems to be tenant houses not owned

Because home owners arent forced into being some contractors income stream by being forced to have unsuitable cavity wall insulation into their homes so others can make ££££ See my previous post
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JenniferBooth · 03/03/2023 21:53

Exhibit A

www.carmarthenshirenewsonline.com/nationalnews/residents-open-up-about-years-of-horrific-living-conditions-in-caerau/

Residents have opened up about the impact years of horrific damp and mold has had on their families after a home insulation scandal involving poor workmanship wrecked a number of homes in a deprived area of Wales.

But money is being made for the companies doing this so all good eh.

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nutbrownhare15 · 26/11/2023 15:44

Contact your local MP.and your local councillor. I'd be contacting the local.press as well. They should replace your stuff and I'd be asking to.be.moved too.

JenniferBooth · 26/11/2023 15:49

sollenwir · 26/11/2023 09:46

Agreed.

That definitely looks like mold caused by not letting the house 'breathe' - windows need opened every day (for as long as you can bear), heated adequately, minimal drying of wet washing indoors (outside, tumble drier, dehumidifier), furniture not right against wall, dehumidify frequently.

The bloody cavities are there for a reason THEY are what lets the house breathe. But HAs and contractors saw a money making oppurtunity knowing tenants could successfully be blamed for what they knew would happen

They knew that there was enough ignorant people in the population (who hate tenants) that this was win win!!!

Primproperpenny · 26/11/2023 15:52

Haven’t read the whole lot but I would send those pictures to my local newspaper and shame the HA into action. That’s not acceptable.

JenniferBooth · 26/11/2023 15:53

Onlyformould · 26/11/2023 11:16

Mould happens because of two things, either from issues with the building ie rising damp or the more common is poor ventilation.

many people do not realise that their lifestyle promotes condensation and if the property is not ventilated then mould will appear.

The television and news bash the councils and landlords but never explain about what causes lifestyle condensation.

i agree that rented homes should be fit for purpose but those that live in them should also be aware of their actions too, in the increasing energy poverty times we live in more and more people are turning off their heating, keeping their windows and doors firmly closed to keep in the heat but then hanging a rack full of wet washing to dry. No wonder this mould problem has rocketed.

I live in a small bedroom flat. All im entitled to due to not having children There isnt room for a tumble dryer.

BorgQueen · 26/11/2023 15:54

Don’t hold your breath.
My Sister’s HA wouldn’t pay for her ruined mattress, carpets and furniture after they finally sorted out her damp by uncovering the damp course outside her ground floor flat and fitting a large, noisy and expensive to run dehumidifier.

Ilovegoldies · 26/11/2023 15:58

I did post earlier but I see others are still speculating that it's a lifestyle issue. It can be. I see it a lot in student housing. 5 people cooking, showering combined with a reluctance to use heating you are going to get mould. Another case though the landlord had to do quite a bit of work. Ground floor flat so the occupants couldn't ventilate as much as they would have liked. There were no extractor fans. The electric heaters were undersized. I wish people would understand that. The landlord remedied those and installed a flatmaster PIV unit. Mould all went once that was done!

drowningfrowning · 26/11/2023 15:58

@MidnightOnceMore I understand what you are saying but there have been cases where the people living in the property have intentionally blocked the trickle vents built into the windows. These trickle vents are one of the measures used to reduce condensation and mould. If people living in the house are intentionally foiling the appropriate measure put in place to prevent mould and damp then it is indeed their actions that are causing the problem. But they this is the case here.

bananabug · 26/11/2023 16:06

Could moving house be an option? (Genuine question). Demand an alternative home based on the fact it's affecting your children's health.

sollenwir · 26/11/2023 17:14

JenniferBooth · 26/11/2023 15:49

The bloody cavities are there for a reason THEY are what lets the house breathe. But HAs and contractors saw a money making oppurtunity knowing tenants could successfully be blamed for what they knew would happen

They knew that there was enough ignorant people in the population (who hate tenants) that this was win win!!!

Not sure why you're quoting me in relation to cavity wall insulation.....

StarlightLime · 26/11/2023 17:18

JenniferBooth · 26/11/2023 15:49

The bloody cavities are there for a reason THEY are what lets the house breathe. But HAs and contractors saw a money making oppurtunity knowing tenants could successfully be blamed for what they knew would happen

They knew that there was enough ignorant people in the population (who hate tenants) that this was win win!!!

That's a little paranoid.
What was in it for the HA's, spending money on this when they "knew what would happen"?

OhmygodDont · 26/11/2023 18:18

Cavity wall insulation will be the next where you missold ppi.

JenniferBooth · 26/11/2023 18:28

StarlightLime · 26/11/2023 17:18

That's a little paranoid.
What was in it for the HA's, spending money on this when they "knew what would happen"?

Funding!

StarlightLime · 26/11/2023 18:30

JenniferBooth · 26/11/2023 18:28

Funding!

Which would have been spent on this, not siphoned into their own pockets?
Why would they actively destroy their own housing stock because it was funded?

JenniferBooth · 26/11/2023 18:39

Two words....................managed decline.

You need to do some reading

Askingforafriend101 · 27/11/2023 00:13

If I was to go to newspaper would they make me and the kids anonymous as I'm so ashamed and don't want kids picked on. I would do it for exposure of issue but not with my kids faces and names ...you know the compo faces

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nutbrownhare15 · 27/11/2023 10:31

You could ask them if you could be anonymous in the story. Have you contacted your MP as that could shift them into gear. You could send the MP an email with the housing people copied in.

DutifulDaughterWifeMother · 29/11/2023 01:36

Please consider getting a dehumidifier to help lower the humidity in the hse for starters as there is only so much opening a window will do. That will stop the build up of condensation and any bacteria forming to create mould. I would get the housing association to reimburse you for that but you need to get your MP involved and show him/her all the pictures and show that you are out of pocket. This is just disgraceful and people should not be having to live in this environment. There is a journalist at ITV who has been doing an ongoing piece about this sort of living conditions. Go on the ITV website & find all the stories he has covered and get in touch with him. I really hope that helps.

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