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To be at breaking point with supporting friend

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knit1pearl2 · 24/11/2023 14:06

Currently under my own stress due to needing to look after nephew while my brother is unwell.

Have long term friend who has had a "something" with a man for three years now. I say something because he has never committed to being her partner or anything formal like that. Friend is a very strong person normally (I.e., work, friends, family) but yet the complete opposite with men.

For years now she's gone round in circles with him making promises he never lives up, her issuing ultimatums and never getting anywhere. She lives at the other end of the country and every single get together we've had that I can remember has had some kind of upset caused by this man.

Lately she's been relying on me more - possibly because she's run out of sympathetic ears. I have all the time in world for people's problems normally, but I feel utterly burnt out. She doesn't listen and says I need to try harder to persuade her. She'll move 5 steps forward to moving on, then be right back at the beginning.

I hit rock bottom the other night because she was on the phone to me saying she wanted to kill herself because of how upset he was making her- of course there's no way I'm going to leave someone who's talking like that, but I had an urgent task of my own that I had to get done. I was literally shaking with anxiety on the phone to her, spent that night finishing the work I had to do. Finally got to bed at 4am but couldn't sleep because I was so worried about her. Then was up at 7 for nephew, school run and work. I feel stressed all the time and hate looking at my phone.

It's not an option to delete whatsapp though I loathe it right now - I use it a lot to send brother updates and photos to keep him cheerful.

How do you support someone through something like while trying to stop yourself getting burnt out?

OP posts:
jeaux90 · 24/11/2023 17:07

"She is very very clever, incredibly sucessful in her career, very persuasive and yes she can be manipulative, so I just don't understand why she's acting like this with a man."

Say this to her then shut up. See what she says

Snowpaw · 24/11/2023 17:12

I think you can set boundaries but still be kind to someone.

I remember in my early twenties I was going through a bit of a shit time with a man and one of my good friends, in a kind way, told me that I was giving off a lot of negativity about it all and she was finding it hard. And it made me stop going on about it immediately becuase I realised then the impact on my friend, which (stupidly) I hadn't really considered before. I sorted myself out after that, made loads of changes to my life and switched to working on myself rather than chasing after a failed relationship. My friend and I are still very good friends to this day. The man is a distant memory.

Don't worry about upsetting her - she's upsetting you. You can still be a good friend but you don't have to give up your life to her problems. You can switch your phone off at bedtime or when you have something to do. You can support her in seeking therapy.

knit1pearl2 · 24/11/2023 17:12

jeaux90 · 24/11/2023 17:07

"She is very very clever, incredibly sucessful in her career, very persuasive and yes she can be manipulative, so I just don't understand why she's acting like this with a man."

Say this to her then shut up. See what she says

I say this all the time! Obviously not the manipulative part Blush

But I do point out how driven and decisive and strong she is and ask why she can't use some of that in her love life. She just says shes doesn't know.

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Goodornot · 24/11/2023 17:25

My sister behaves like this over some piece of shit guy who won't leave his gf for her. She trips over herself to fuck him so why would he leave his gf when he gets her for free on top?

I have told my sister we've talked about this 1000 times he is not going to be with her. Still she carries on.

She has lost so many friends and she doesn't get why. She showed me the messages and one of her friends said to her: leave it please...I have enough in my life without your dramas.

If I received that from a friend I would be mortified. Reflect apologise and leave it My sister didn't get it and reacted defensively and her friend wont speak to her anymore.

I'd say something like:

It is extremely wearing to hear the same things over and over again.

Every time I see you lately or speak to you, I dont recall you ever asking much about me anymore. There’s just an expectation that each conversation I have with you will be dedicated to installment #694129 of “what this man did next.

It's very boring and I don't wish to discuss it anymore. He isn't going to be the man you want him to be and you're wasting your time.
Please don't raise him again and seek medical help for your depression and suicidal thoughts as that worried me greatly.

Do it....

anon2134 · 24/11/2023 17:41

It's been 3 years of supporting her op. Stop.

SkyFullofStars1975 · 24/11/2023 18:02

Archive her messages, and read them once a week when you're not stressed. And don't engage in any conversation about him at all. Make him the elephant in the room.

She'll eventually get the hint.

Atethehalloweenchocs · 24/11/2023 18:19

She is making you responsible for her well being and it is not on. Try to have a discussion with her when she is not in crisis and explain you feel she needs more help than you can provide, although you remain her loving friend and here for her. Develop some statements you can use and repeat when she is kicking off - 'I am sorry you feel this way but I don't know what else to say that we haven't said before'. 'I can't persuade you of anything, only you can do that for yourself'. 'I have to go now, who are you going to call for support?' Tell her what you said here, and that you think she may benefit from professional help to determine why she is going round in circles like this. And if she says she is going to harm herself, make an agreement with her of what you will do to support her, because you cannot be responsible for her at that point.

Nicole1111 · 24/11/2023 18:21

“I’m sorry but I’m struggling myself right now and I don’t have the emotional capacity for this. I think you should speak to a professional”.
EVERY SINGLE TIME you feel her sucking the life out of you.

SoIRejoined · 24/11/2023 19:39

You're going to check her what's apps once a day?? OMFG, how often is she messaging you? The only person I message once a day is my husband and that's entirely logistics about shopping, child care etc. This person is exploiting you.

Just say this: "dear friend, you know my opinions on your relationship with x. I no longer have the time or energy to engage in this, it is taking up a lot of time that I cannot spare, and affecting my mental health. Please make your own decisions, and refer back to my previous messages if you want to know my opinion."

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