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To be confused about "healthy eating"

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Van34 · 23/11/2023 09:22

It's not that I don't understand what foods are and aren't healthy (or so i thought). But I have no idea how to eat healthily. Bear with me.
I used to have a jacket and tuna (with a dash of mayo) but then I was told that it was as unhealthy as sandwiches. So then I tried salads but remain hungry no matter how much I had. Went onto soup but was then told that they are also unhealthy and ultra processed. What should I have?
I understand moderation but portion sizes are minute. One portion of cereal is enough for a toddler. That's not going to fill me up until lunchtime. Is a slice of toast healthy? It used to be a staple breakfast when I was growing up. Or should we be having something else (not a tiny portion if cereal)
We eat home cooked food everyday, no ready meals. But are they healthy? Chilli, steak and chips, chicken in pittas, fajitas, mince and dumplings. All staples from childhood and all filling. But are they healthy? I know what's in them so they should be...
It's a minefield. No red meat. No wine. Low sugar. Low salt. Low carb. High fibre. Low fat. No fat. High protein. Low cal. But so many of these diet foods are processed....
I am so confused about it all.

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MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 23/11/2023 22:09

CharlotteBog · 23/11/2023 22:04

So your lunch for example while individual ingredients of jacket potato and tuna are not unhealthy, there is no veg.

Apart from the actual potato itself.

Yes, maybe that's what the doctor meant. Tuna and potatoes are not unhealthy, but a meal without veg and salad is.

It really isn't. All your meals w/o salad and veg is not healthy. A meal w/o veg and salad is absolutely fine.

Surely only if a person is diabetic they can't have a baked potato?

PippyLongTits · 23/11/2023 22:13

There is no such thing as a healthy food, only a healthy diet.

theduchessofspork · 23/11/2023 22:15

BarbaraofSeville · 23/11/2023 09:34

I used to have a jacket and tuna (with a dash of mayo) but then I was told that it was as unhealthy as sandwiches. So then I tried salads but remain hungry no matter how much I had. Went onto soup but was then told that they are also unhealthy and ultra processed

Have you ever thought that some people are telling you nonsense? I'd be wary about asking for advice about food on here as it will drag out the orthorexics who think that people should eat nothing but home made organic protein and veg, but the reality is that Michael Pollan's advice that was 'Eat real food, not too much, mostly plants' just about covers it, taking into account the 80/20 rule - it's what you do most of the time that matters but there's plenty of scope for what you eat to not stick 100% to the letter, however you define it.

Just make sure you eat plenty of veg, some fruit but not loads, mostly unprocessed and be realistic about portion sizes. You don't need to eat toddler size portions, but you shouldn't pile your (large dinner) plate high either.

Plus if you are hungry in the morning, eat more then. If you do this, you'll probably naturally eat less later on because you won't be starving hungry all day. If the common 'eat little or nothing all day in anticipation of a big dinner' way of eating doesn't work for you, don't eat like that.

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Quite - you already had two faddy eaters before this sensible poster.

Theres nothing wrong with tuna and a jacket - just add salad.

The only things we know for sure are lots of vegetables and fruit are good, and a modern Western diet - ie with lots of very processed food is bad.

This does NOT mean you cannot eat any processed food, just not too much.

Eat a balanced diet with protein, fibre, wholemeal carbs, fruit and veg and some fats.

Keep that up 80% of the time and then have what you want for the rest.

DollyTubb · 24/11/2023 08:37

@TotalOverhaul tbh it was probably yhe industrial quantity of chocolate! My lovely consultant read me the riot act when I asked if I could start eating it again! But I don't eat biscuits, shop bought cakes, pies and pastries now, or cheese and dairy products. Little changes I don't miss that make a huge difference.

Thepeopleversuswork · 24/11/2023 08:49

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 23/11/2023 16:16

One single potato - especially a baked one with its skin on - is NOT too many carbohydrates for an adult human to eat at once. If anyone's being "ridiculous" here, it's those claiming that eating any carbs = bad, or the reason for diabetes. Cutting out refined sugar (esp in the form of sugary drinks) and fried stuff (like crisps, chips etc) would be more sensible than avoiding all carbs.
OP: please ignore the cranks. Keep making home-cooked food and avoiding ultra-processed crap. Eat as wide a range of different vegetables as possible.

I’m old enough to remember when people talked about protein in the same panicky way that they now talk about carbohydrates. It’s irrational and not based on sensible science.

A carbohydrate isn’t inherently unhealthy because it’s a carbohydrate. If you consume many more calories than you expend you will inevitably put on weight but that applies to any food group.

It’s true that if your diet consists largely of highly processed carbohydrates you are not getting sufficient balance. But that’s not because there’s something inherently unhealthy about carbs.

Any invocation to avoid a whole food group is not sensible.

NeedToChangeName · 24/11/2023 09:07

TotalOverhaul · 23/11/2023 21:40

Out of interest, what were you eating before, that you thought was a healthy diet but for you, turned out not to be?

@TotalOverhaul you query wasn't addressed to me, but if you're interested - in my case, cheese was the big surprise. I thought dairy products were good for women

TotalOverhaul · 24/11/2023 13:02

NeedToChangeName · 24/11/2023 09:07

@TotalOverhaul you query wasn't addressed to me, but if you're interested - in my case, cheese was the big surprise. I thought dairy products were good for women

So did I!

NeedToChangeName · 25/11/2023 07:34

TotalOverhaul · 24/11/2023 13:02

So did I!

@TotalOverhaul sadly, cheese is a big No for me now, due to high blood pressure

I had no idea

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