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To not understand why people have kids if they’re going to treat them like this :(

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SadToSeeSomeParentsAreLikeThat · 20/11/2023 16:12

I was in a shop earlier and there was a little girl in a pram (probably 2 or 3 years old) and her mum was talking to her mum (the girls grandma) and saying how annoying the girl was and how she wishes she was at nursery. She said to the girl ‘I don’t care how poorly you are, you’re going to nursery tomorrow. Or should I just send you to your dad instead?’
Later on I heard the grandma say to the mum that she better stop or she would throw her out of the window! This was because she wanted to come out of her pram and be carried…
They were both just shouting at her, telling her off and saying horrible things to her and to each other about her. It was awful 😞
I have a 2 year old and I would never treat him like that or talk about him like that…

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BoredOfBeingTired · 20/11/2023 17:32

Why do people find it so difficult to believe that there are utterly shit mothers* *out there?
Not every woman turns into a Saint that 'does her best' the moment she has a child.
Some people shouldn't be parents and most of us will see and notice those people out and about with kids.
I personally don't care if seeing someone swearing at a child is 'a snapshot of their day'- it isn't acceptable parenting and God only knows what goes on at home.
Mothers (especially on here) can seemingly do no wrong, if it was a father and grandfather in OP's posts the pitchforks would be out right now.

MeadStMary · 20/11/2023 17:38

Twentypastfour · 20/11/2023 17:14

I think there are a lot of poor parents out there.

I really hate this narrative that all parents / mothers are “doing their best”. It’s blatantly not true (and if it is, then their best isn’t good enough) and as harmful as “be kind”.

I agree with this completely.

It's always "you're only seeing a snapshot" or "you have no idea what that parent is going through". But in the real world there is a big difference between being a bit snappy because you're at the end of your tether and just being a shit parent. And it's quite clear to onlookers which one it is, even when it is just a snapshot.

The thing is, shit parents will tell you that their DC are their whole world, and they will genuinely mean it. But if they have been raised by shit parents themselves, and have no understanding of the damage they are doing to their dc, then they think that talking to them like crap is fine and normal.

BurbageBrook · 20/11/2023 17:44

There's always someone on threads like these who says it's a 'snapshot' and you don't know what kind of day they've had etc. I think that's bullshit. You can tell from how some people talk to their kids in public exactly what they're like in private. And nothing excuses emotionally abusing a two year old.

BurbageBrook · 20/11/2023 17:47

@Maverickess good for you. Amazing that you were able to do that despite the upbringing you had

margotrose · 20/11/2023 17:55

if it was a father and grandfather in OP's posts the pitchforks would be out right now.

Ain't that the truth. Yet when it's a mother, people always bleat on about how it's only a snapshot and you have no idea what they might be going through.

Women can be shit parents too.

SummerDawn2000 · 20/11/2023 18:01

I hope the little one unlearns and breaks the cycle. It happens but it’s so bloody hard

a lot of posters on here have done this.

even if as a parent you are having the day from hell or DC is being a sod you need to remember they are little.

not judging the mum though. It’s really fucking hard to be a mum with social media, different and colliding parenting styles, dealing with your own shit etc.

it’s intense being solely responsible for a small person.

Christmasisonitsway · 20/11/2023 18:02

You're not wrong OP. And if the child is treated like that around other people I wonder how the parents behave at home? Poor girl.

Nowherenew · 20/11/2023 18:05

YANBU

Nothing angers me more than when people have kids or pets and treat them badly.

Don’t have them or get rid of them.

Its selfish behaviour and they’re not even trying to give them a good life.

Holidayhell22 · 20/11/2023 18:10

Yep plenty of people should not have children.

Holidayhell22 · 20/11/2023 18:11

No excuse for it. Contraception is free. Abortion is free.
Utterly vile.

LNY1986 · 20/11/2023 18:12

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Toottooot · 20/11/2023 18:12

Minkers - just absolute minkers.

takemehomecountryroads · 20/11/2023 18:13

Some people just aren’t meant to be parents.

MrsJellybee · 20/11/2023 18:19

Something I’ve seen recently is mothers walking down the road and children as young as two or three trailing behind. They are often a good five or ten metres behind. The mother is sometimes on a phone, sometimes not. Every thirty seconds or so, they will glance back to check the child is still there, then keep walking. Rarely is the child crying. They just plod on behind as if they are accustomed to this treatment. I find it heartbreaking. My child is nine and has only recently asked to not hold my hand as we walk down the street, which is fine. We still walk in step, talk, laugh. I’m sure at some point in the next few years, she’ll want to walk ahead of me and pretend we’re not together. That’s growing up. But until recently, we always held hands. When she was very small, and if she refused to walk, I just carried her. I cannot imagine walking down the street with my small child trailing behind.

RunSlowTalkFast · 20/11/2023 18:19

I think some people aren't that bright and having kids to bully and tease makes them feel powerful and clever.

Begsthequestion · 20/11/2023 18:23

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What a foul, ignorant post you've written there. It says far more about you than anything else.

Unihorn · 20/11/2023 18:30

Yes it's nothing to do with "having a bad day". Unfortunately I live in a pretty shit area and I'd say about half the parents are like that most days. The kids who play on my street are out from 9-9 at the weekends. I've had to give them water in the summer because they're told to stay out of their parents' way. I've no doubt they'd have been spoken to like shit from birth.

avocadotofu · 20/11/2023 18:36

BurbageBrook · 20/11/2023 17:44

There's always someone on threads like these who says it's a 'snapshot' and you don't know what kind of day they've had etc. I think that's bullshit. You can tell from how some people talk to their kids in public exactly what they're like in private. And nothing excuses emotionally abusing a two year old.

Absolutely this! What OP witness is utterly unacceptable, especially towards a poorly child.

roarrfeckingroar · 20/11/2023 19:00

That's sad. Although I do threaten my three year old with the bin sometimes. He knows he's loved deeply.

Clarinet1 · 20/11/2023 19:01

Just today I was at a bus stop with a mother and her little girl, aged about 3. The little girl was being quite lively, running around and doing some things where she could have hurt herself such as climbing things and, at one point she stepped onto a bus which wasn’t the one they needed and could have got taken off without her mother. She did need a bit of supervision and direction but all the mother seemed to be doing was snarling “Don’t do that” “Come here” etc but there was no attempt to distract the child or keep her amused in a better way or she could just have followed her more closely. Also, surely by that sort of age a child should have some idea that busy roads and so on are dangerous places and they should stay with an adult. Then again, as a PP has suggested, it is concerning that they seem to want to run away so young.
Also, I have seen parents trying to catch their DC running round a supermarket or a tube carriage and the kids think it’s funny so they persist. They need to be trained that there is a time and a place for games and those are not it. I think that diversionary tactics would play
a useful role here too.

Marine30 · 15/03/2024 13:44

So sad for the kid - what kind of childhood can she look forward to. Shows a pattern too as mum clearly experienced similar from grandma (by the sound of the window incident) and is just passing it on as that’s all she knows.
I heard a man call his daughter (about 6ish) the c word a few years ago. I nearly fell off the pavement. Just awful 😞 If he wasn’t so massive I would have said something.

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