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To disagree with Children in need

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BrokenBrit · 17/11/2023 22:02

Perhaps I should preface this and say I do give to charity and I recognise we don’t live in a fair and decent society where services are properly funded.

However, I think it’s pretty shameful having children plastered all over the tv revealing their private medical diagnosis so as to get some money for essential funding.

I also hate the narrative of disabled people needing pity and charity with the sad music and dimmed lights (I’ve not watched it this year but that has been previous years experience!). Either that or as some sort of inspiration! I just hate this narrative!

Then there are the jolly celebs making themselves feels good singing a song and raising a few £ when what really needs is change to policy and practice, a properly funded NHS, proper provision for children with SEND and much, much more. But let’s donate a quid and feel good about ourselves hey.

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billycat321 · 19/11/2023 22:05

Terrible programme. Mawkish sentimentality. Outdated. Too many 'celebs' and so called stars desperately trying to prop up their flagging careers. Virtue signalling at its worst

MarvellousMonsters · 20/11/2023 00:31

Mischance · 17/11/2023 22:30

With you all the way OP. I never watch it. It is a disgrace that our welfare state cannot provide for these children and I hate seeing them paraded about at this brash pity party.

Forgive me for not coughing up the cash I need to pay my gas bill, no matter how much a multimillionaire celebrity asks me too:

To disagree with Children in need
choc1cheese1 · 20/11/2023 01:56

Eh? Pretty sure they’re not being seen in either way!

choc1cheese1 · 20/11/2023 02:04

Pretty sure they wouldn’t appear if they didn’t want to!

Whyohwhywyoming · 20/11/2023 02:05

It’s competitive as a charity to get money from CIN and there is a process of due diligence before the grant is awarded and then in reporting and impact.

for everyone who is saying that the government should be doing all this; yes they should. What are you doing to communicate this and hold them to account? Anything at all?

Whyohwhywyoming · 20/11/2023 02:11

crumblingschools · 19/11/2023 13:05

I must admit I have never understood why hospices are charities and not part of NHS. Is this similar in other countries?

Because dying people are not a priority! Most hospices are charities, but don’t know if any that aren’t, and receive a small proportion of government funding. The modern hospice movement was founded by a woman doctor, Cecile Saunders, who thought hospital palliative care was under par. A lot of children’s hospices provide huge amounts of respite care and long term support - people, if they have a choice, prefer children to die at home and hospices support that.

i used to work in a hospice and every time at public events we had someone come up to us and say they didn’t donate as they thought govt should pay for us, my colleague would ask them what they were doing to make that happen. It was always nothing.

choc1cheese1 · 20/11/2023 02:22

Wow 🙁 What a sad comment!!

choc1cheese1 · 20/11/2023 02:31

Good grief, such cynicism over his awesome achievement for charity….. wow 😯

pollymere · 20/11/2023 11:28

My town runs a Christmas Shopping Evening that usually coincides with Black Friday but this year was a week early. Which meant that the vast majority were not watching Children in Need. Neither was it mentioned by anyone attending...not even the special guests. Ironically I'd seen a post suggesting that the person turning on our lights would be doing something for CiN...which of course I disputed as I knew they'd be switching on the lights!

I'm also getting very irritated by the emphasis on it being BBC Children in Need. It makes it sound like kids who watch ITV won't get support.

I haven't watched any of it but I'd be interested to know if the puppeteers/Muppeteers on MasterChef were the genuine originals if anyone knows.

Goldenbear · 20/11/2023 11:53

Tiredalwaystired · 17/11/2023 23:14

I don’t think this is fair. Take Vernon Kaye. He could just give a million quid. But his awareness raising has directly raised four times that and indirectly probably a lot more. Or for all you actually know he might be doing both. He certainly put the volunteer hours in.

Plus it’s not only the poverty stricken watching. Plenty of others with cash could be inspired to give too.

Do you sincerely believe very wealthy people sit around watching Children In Need on a Friday night. I don't know I can't imagine it but perhaps.

catotangent · 20/11/2023 12:02

Agreed with the OP already, but I suspect some of the celebrities do it to raise their profiles. Cynical maybe.

ManateeFair · 20/11/2023 12:04

Of course change to policy and practice is needed, but that's the case for pretty much every charitable organisation. No charities would be needed if policy and practice in that charity's field were adequate. You might as well say you don't agree with Shelter because housing policy should be better, or you don't agree with Macmillan because cancer nursing should be properly funded through the NHS, or you don't agree with the RSPCA because animal welfare crimes should be prosecuted by a specialist police unit, or you don't agree with Oxfam because the government should be giving more in overseas aid. The list is endless.

Personally, I never watch Children In Need because it's terrible TV, and I rarely donate because I tend to donate to other charities year-round, but I couldn't say I 'disagree' with it.

drawingmaps · 20/11/2023 13:47

Whyohwhywyoming · 20/11/2023 02:05

It’s competitive as a charity to get money from CIN and there is a process of due diligence before the grant is awarded and then in reporting and impact.

for everyone who is saying that the government should be doing all this; yes they should. What are you doing to communicate this and hold them to account? Anything at all?

As it happens I'm going to the Senedd tomorrow to speak to members about funding for care and treatment of a particular disability, at an event I persuaded them to put on. What are you doing?

MrsDrudge · 01/12/2023 13:39

The Government don’t fund anything.
it is the taxpayers who do the funding.

SparklyBiscuit · 15/11/2024 20:47

i totally agree

girlfriend44 · 15/11/2024 20:50

Same old discussion every year.

Rich people asking poor people for money.

If you must have something every year why children why not animals or old people.

flapjackfairy · 15/11/2024 20:50

@SparklyBiscuit
Zombie thread !

sanityisamyth · 15/11/2024 20:56

I was a child desperately in need and got bugger all support. I can't watch it as it makes me remember all the shit I went through.

SparklyBiscuit · 15/11/2024 21:19

just dont watch any of them i find them these charlty donations tv comics relief and children in need out dated and just all the time asking for money many of us do not have its been going on for so many years. Maybe its time to pull the plug on these shows i can not work due to ill health and disability and yet every year i got things like this rammed down my throat asking me to donate money its not just a few pounds either

SparklyBiscuit · 15/11/2024 21:27

i never watch any of them at all it annoys me every year

girlfriend44 · 15/11/2024 21:28

GrimDamnFanjo · 19/11/2023 18:59

I had some involvement with CIN several years ago, so my perspective may be out of date.
CIN disperses the money in the form of grants, usually via branches of CIN at a regional level.
The case studies you see on tv are the minority of the hardest hitting and emotionally appealing.
Most of the money goes to causes which are no less worthy imho but less popular, such as older teens, drugs and alcohol related support.
There are also grants made to organisations I absolutely wouldn't support.
It's manipulation via the media but if it were done with more transparency it simply wouldn't raise the funds required.

Good post. They don't give out individual grants either.
Why can't a parent apply if they have a child in need.

Isitjustme20 · 15/11/2024 21:29

i disagree with it, whenever I watch it it seems all the money goes towards charities helping kids get into sports. I don’t really care about that, what I care about is children having food and drink not whether they can play sports!

x2boys · 15/11/2024 22:41

girlfriend44 · 15/11/2024 21:28

Good post. They don't give out individual grants either.
Why can't a parent apply if they have a child in need.

There are other charities though that give grants to individual people / families such as as family fund .

x2boys · 15/11/2024 22:44

Isitjustme20 · 15/11/2024 21:29

i disagree with it, whenever I watch it it seems all the money goes towards charities helping kids get into sports. I don’t really care about that, what I care about is children having food and drink not whether they can play sports!

From what I have seen tonight there were loads of different charities, one thst gave beds to children who didn't have one
And supporting children with various disabilities etc

Changingplace · 16/11/2024 07:56

Isitjustme20 · 15/11/2024 21:29

i disagree with it, whenever I watch it it seems all the money goes towards charities helping kids get into sports. I don’t really care about that, what I care about is children having food and drink not whether they can play sports!

That’s not true they support all kinds of different charities, not just sport ones at all.

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