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School attendance

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Fantasia99 · 17/11/2023 16:10

I understand schools have to reach certain attendance %s, however in my son's school, the children who come first every week get to pick a new book for their classroom, and are 'celebrated' in assembly. My son's class is never first, despite him getting 100% attendance, and it feels like the children being punished for either their classmates being unwell, or their parents not bringing them to school. They're the only class not to have ever got a new book. He's come home today saying what's the point in going if other people don't turn up and he doesn't get a new book because of them. It's disheartening. Does anyone else have similar or am I just being soft?

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TrashedSofa · 18/11/2023 09:12

Of course the stats on term time holidays aren't a surprise. It has always made financial sense. On top of that we've had numerous examples over the last few years of school being a nice to have, something that can stop happening if there's a good enough reason.

As someone who's occasionally withdrawn mine for a day or two, albeit for events rather than holidays, attendance prizes have absolutely no impact on my decision making about my DC. All they do is stigmatise the DC who have lower attendance for reasons that aren't their choice.

Globules · 18/11/2023 09:29

Unless you're in school leadership, it's hard to see the complexities of this.

In my old school (primary), I changed our attendance system from individual attendance certificates and prizes to class ones. Having a child with a medical condition, 100% attendance certificates wind me up. The top 3 class attendance winners were put on the newsletter. The top 3 and "better attendance since last week" classes were shared in assembly and all of those classes had 5 minutes extra play on a Friday. Every class had a reward several times throughout the year.

The local authority link person was hard on me, and therefore the school, because I wasn't doing enough to improve attendance, and making it worse in her eyes by getting rid of the 100% individuals. I only created a "top 3" classes as she was threatening to mark our self assessment down as "we weren't working with her, nor actioning her shared expertise"

When you get a whole school overview, you see the patterns. The biggest chunk of absence are the parents who don't send their child in, because they think they've got a sniffle, repeatedly and regularly. They're too tired. I heard them cough last night. They wouldn't eat breakfast. One child was at 60% attendance for these sorts of reasons. Other end of the spectrum are parents who can't be bothered to get their children into school as it's too much effort. Kids stay home bored, and learn the lifestyle to pass onto the next generation.

Families taking 2 or 3 term time holidays a year is another big contender. My current school has siblings off for at least 8 holidays a year, ranging from long weekends to fortnight's away. They've already had 3 holidays since September.

Children with long term diagnosed medical conditions normally have parents desperate to get them into school when they can, as they're aware of how much education they're missing due to all the appointments or days needed at home for treatments/recovery.

Things can be done though for the ones who are persistent absentees. I've recently undertaken research for my Master's, actioned it in my school, and seeing the rewards. Slowly getting there and seeing change with some of our harder to reach families.

@Fantasia99 Keep reminding your son that learning things at school every day is far more important than a new book for the classroom once in a while. And feel free to tell him that other head teachers in our country think his school is running an unfair attendance system because I agree with him!

TheHoover · 18/11/2023 09:35

Rather than criticise what the school is doing to improve attendance, perhaps you could suggest other measures?

We moved house in Jan and changed (primary)schools; the old one in London had 86% attendance (which I though was shocking) and the current one has 97%.

What would you do if you were in charge of the 86% school?

LittleBrenda · 18/11/2023 09:42

Good post @Globules.

My own child complained to me in year one that there was 'no point' in doing her homework because Dylan never did his.

Dylan was quite clearly neglected. We had a good talk about how people had very different circumstances.

DrCoconut · 19/11/2023 14:26

@Rosme you are right. I absolutely despise attendance rewards (and also prizes for fundraising which I kicked up a fuss about due to how unfair it is for low income families). children should not be rewarded for things that are out of their control. My DS lost all respect for his school (though he was not rude to them) over their silly rules and reward systems. He quite rightly recognised that if you get a stomach bug in October and lose your 100% attendance then you cant get the prize, so in for a penny in for a pound for the rest of the year, take as much time off as possible (he hated school and this system was bizarrely meant to improve his attendance!)

platinumplus · 19/11/2023 14:45

The biggest chunk of absence are the parents who don't send their child in, because they think they've got a sniffle, repeatedly and regularly. They're too tired. I heard them cough last night. They wouldn't eat breakfast.

Do the parents actually say "I think they've got a sniffle"
I find it difficult to believe that a large "chunk" of parents are calling in to say their child has a sniffle - I've literally never heard anyone use that phrase in real life at all. It's only ever used by people who think children should be sent to school unless they are vomiting.
Same goes for "I heard them cough last night" - I'm quite sure there aren't swathes of parents using this phrase.
It's also quite unfair to go off what a parent gets to say in a 30 second phone call to school, first thing in the morning, which may or may not get written down in the same way they've said it.
If a parent thinks their child is too unwell to attend school, it's not up to a teacher to decide otherwise.

Peccary · 20/11/2023 07:58

It's just awful. My Y2 child has been vomiting all weekend and is in tears this morning as I want to do the right thing and keep her home (as per school policy). All because of a badge she now won't get in July.

She has otherwise excellent attendance. I'll be writing to the school but have no expectations. Two kids in her class of 30 got this award last year showing it's achievable for fewer than 1:10 with good luck/immunity or parents who send them anyway

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