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AIBU to think my husband is being unfair about Christmas holidays?

57 replies

ExpatWithXmasBlues · 15/11/2023 20:16

Long one, sorry. I live in my husband's country within 30min of most of his family. We've been here for 14 years. We have 3 children. Since getting married we have spent 1 Christmas with my family. We have spent every other Christmas for 14 years with his family. For context, we mostly get along great and see his mom most weeks and other family multiple times through the year and for every holiday, birthday, event etc.

I have 5 brothers and sisters who live around the world. They try to get together with my parents on a holiday at least once a year. We have made it to these holidays twice in a dozen years. Otherwise we see some of them on some trips back when schedules coordinate. My parents have been to visit us only twice (they struggle with planes and also I have a brother and sister who are 12 and 20 years younger than me so they were in school until recently) but on many of our previous trips when we were not so well off they (or my aunts, of which I have many) would help with our airfare or pay for the accommodation for us all to make it easier for us to travel.

Recently we've been doing really well and have plenty of extra funds. We splurged on a trip to a national park this summer for 2 weeks for my 40th and invited my family. We paid for pretty much everything except their airfare and food. My parents, sister and one brother made it to the location, the others couldn't due to financial issues. Again, for context, we did Disney for my husband's 40th a few years prior and invited my family. Two brothers and my parents along with my aunt and uncle who my husband and I were both close to joined us (my parents paid for the house).

My brothers recently informed me that everyone is going to be "home" for Christmas and asked if we could go too and surprise our mom with a big family Christmas. We will not have seen three of my brothers or my nephews for 15 months by Christmas so it would be amazing.

Flights will be about £3k for 10 days but my husband automatically said that's too much when we just spent a fortune seeing them for my birthday. I pointed out that he was willing to go to Prague for 4 days for £2k that same week and he immediately u-turned on that and said he never would have agreed (he previously told me to book it!). His other argument is that they never come to us so why should we spend the money to always have to go to them. Again for context, most of them don't have valid passports and/or fear flying. Siblings: One is military, one is a broke college kid, one lives in China, one is afraid to put his kids on a plane and one was in high school until recently.

Hubby has also told me repeatedly in the past that he just flat out refuses to go to my hometown ever again bc he finds it boring and there is nothing to do after we spent £3k on flights so it's not worth it. So we have compromised in the past and met my family at destinations instead (beach, Disney, national parks, etc). So we wind up spending a fortune on holidays (which we all enjoy, not complaining) because he cannot just sit and visit with people, he always has to do something. Even when we visited my home town in years past we had to always be out finding something to "do" spending extra money on activities instead of just sitting home and playing games, chatting, catching up, etc which is something my family (and the kids and I) all enjoy. It cuts out on most of the time we can spend being together each year because not everyone goes or because of the nature of the activity we're all doing different things.

We are in a position where we have plenty of extra funds, especially before we potentially buy a house in the new year (process ongoing and spending up to £5k now will not impact anything there). Am I being unreasonable to tell him he's being a selfish asshole to not let our kids (12, 11, 9) have a Christmas with my family for only the second time in their lives, and to deny me the chance to be with all of my siblings and parents together for the first time in 15 months?? Would IBU to just book it and he can come or not? Kids all want to go. I mostly just want to know if my feelings are valid or if I need to give a little more credence to what his arguments are? Thank you!

OP posts:
turkeyboots · 15/11/2023 21:28

Go on your own, go with the kids.
But I have sympathy for your DH, I wouldn't do a week in my DHs hometown for Christmas.

Deathwillbebutapause · 15/11/2023 21:40

Just take the kids and have a blast.

Perhaps try to see DH's POV. Sometimes these family affairs feel like torture even when you really like the other people involved. It's just the enforced proximity and jollity and empty chatter for ten whole days... especially in a dull location... no, I really wouldn't be up for it in my husband's hometown tbh. Sorry if that sounds harsh! I am sure he does love them all.

PreferQuietlife · 15/11/2023 21:42

I lost my mum after two decades in my husband's country and very few xmases with her.

Seven years on and I haven't got over it and don't think I ever will. miss her all the time. If I'd had any inkling she'd die young I'd have gone home for Xmas no matter what.

Don't be me with regrets. Go home. Did your selfish husband.

PreferQuietlife · 15/11/2023 21:43

sod your selfish husband.

coveredindoghairs · 15/11/2023 21:47

You should go. I'd tell him this is happening whether he wants to go or not. You and the kids are going, and he can decide whether or not he's joining you before you book the flights.

justasmalltownmum · 15/11/2023 21:49

Just go

Redmat · 15/11/2023 21:52

You should go home. A full family Christmas may not come around again for years.
Just go.

Itsbritneybitch22 · 15/11/2023 22:07

He is out of order why would even question it.

Imperfectp3rf3ction · 15/11/2023 22:13

There are not many opportunity's like this left do it 100%

NovemberRain23 · 15/11/2023 22:17

He’s not the boss of you.
You want to go, kids want to go. Go.
What’s the worse that can happen? Bit of sulking when you get back?

Pumpkinspicelattetime · 15/11/2023 22:18

Deathwillbebutapause · 15/11/2023 21:40

Just take the kids and have a blast.

Perhaps try to see DH's POV. Sometimes these family affairs feel like torture even when you really like the other people involved. It's just the enforced proximity and jollity and empty chatter for ten whole days... especially in a dull location... no, I really wouldn't be up for it in my husband's hometown tbh. Sorry if that sounds harsh! I am sure he does love them all.

She's spent years where she is for him, he won't even put up with 10 days. She sees his mum and the rest of his family constantly. She doesn't need to see it from his POV. His POV is that he is a selfish bastard.

itsalongwaybackfromsorry · 15/11/2023 22:18

Go without him.

He's being a selfish arse.

Go without him.

PestilencialCrisis · 15/11/2023 22:19

Book it, Danno!

justasking111 · 15/11/2023 22:21

tinytemper66 · 15/11/2023 20:23

Go with the kids and leave him behind.

That's what I would do. But I would ask the children where they would like to be this Christmas first

HiCandles · 15/11/2023 22:22

Go with or without him. He's being selfish. The hometown is irrelevant, it's literally a location to be with family. He should be ashamed of himself.

FieldInWhichFucksAreGrownIsBarren · 15/11/2023 22:23

I'd just book for you and the kids tbh, I wouldn't actually want him there after he point blank refused and told you your home town was boring.
You have done more than enough Christmas's with his family, it's your turn.

snoopyfanaccountant · 15/11/2023 22:25

This has hit a raw nerve with me. My dad died 18 months ago having never had Christmas dinner with DD2 who turns 20 on Friday. PIL came as a package with MIL's DM and godmother. DH is too weak to stand up to his DM. My dad was a university lecturer with a PhD and the godmother was reported to have felt inadequate around him and MIL's family pandered to the claim that she had no family (her nephew is the manager of a top football club and was close enough to have bought her council flat for her so that was a lie - guess who cleared the flat when she died so that it could be sold) so my dad wasn't invited. At Christmas 2020 when the government locked us down at midnight on Christmas Day, DH and MIL just assumed that we would do Christmas as usual although I had plans with my family for a couple of days later; my DC finally saw him in May 2021 and by Christmas 2021 my dad was in a nursing home so Christmas dinner with him was impossible. OP, stand your ground; there are two sides to every famly.

mathanxiety · 15/11/2023 22:28

YANBU

Go with the children. They are old enough to remember their time with the family.

Your husband is an arse.

Sommerled · 15/11/2023 22:28

Go without him, you'll have a much better time

TheSpikySpinosaurus · 15/11/2023 22:30

tinytemper66 · 15/11/2023 20:23

Go with the kids and leave him behind.

This.

He sounds really selfish and uncaring about what you think it want

unsync · 15/11/2023 23:34

Yup, if he wants to stay back, let him. Take the kids and have Christmas with your family.

anon2134 · 15/11/2023 23:45

tinytemper66 · 15/11/2023 20:23

Go with the kids and leave him behind.

Do this

MaidOfSteel · 15/11/2023 23:48

He sounds like a selfish arse. Is he bossy & dismissive of you in other ways?

I think you should go right ahead and book flights for you & the kids. Have a lovely time with your family.

Mumsanetta · 15/11/2023 23:48

I would tell him that this is no longer a question of you going but rather a question of him joining you and the children. Go and have the best Christmas with your family and give your kids a memory of Christmas with all of your family while they are still here.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 16/11/2023 00:07

PestilencialCrisis · 15/11/2023 22:19

Book it, Danno!

This!