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To think that killing 6 children - should have a longer sentence!

145 replies

Whiteday · 15/11/2023 16:28

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-67427340

An absolute disgrace!

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therealcookiemonster · 15/11/2023 17:59

the legal system is a joke. all three should be in jail.

Ohtobetwentytwo · 15/11/2023 18:07

Are you campaigning for change OP or just arguing with people?

MermaidEyes · 15/11/2023 18:08

Funnily enough, I drove past their street the other day. Every time I'm near there I think of those poor children and how horrific it was.

Whiteday · 15/11/2023 18:12

Ohtobetwentytwo · 15/11/2023 18:07

Are you campaigning for change OP or just arguing with people?

Have you got an actual opinion about the death of six children? Or just come in to be goady?

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Whiteday · 15/11/2023 18:13

MermaidEyes · 15/11/2023 18:08

Funnily enough, I drove past their street the other day. Every time I'm near there I think of those poor children and how horrific it was.

Now that must be a sad place

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MermaidEyes · 15/11/2023 18:17

Now that must be a sad place

I imagine it must be very sad for the neighbours who still live there. The house has been demolished now and new ones built.

LakeTiticaca · 15/11/2023 18:20

Philpott is a very dangerous individual. He treats women like his possessions. He attacked his former g/f and her mother and left them for dead. He's the kind of person who can't be rehabilitated

Neitheronethingnortheother · 15/11/2023 18:24

MrsSchrute · 15/11/2023 17:34

Totally agree.
Posts like this are never about the conversation though, they're all about who can be the most outraged.

Its performative outrage that is somehow made out to be more moral than the people who actually administer or campaign to change the law

Ohtobetwentytwo · 15/11/2023 18:32

🙄 to your response.

So are you campaigning? Because otherwise your thread is worse than my comment. You've started a thread about murdered children land you're starting drama. Seriously, have a word with yourself.

VanityDiesHard · 15/11/2023 18:33

x2boys · 15/11/2023 17:49

I agree they didn't intend to.kill.the children ,but Mick was a dangerous mix of very arrogant and not very intelligent
I think Mariead,is culpable though
Yes she might have been under Micks,influence but she knew what she was doing .

I agree. Kind of disgusted with some of the bleeding hearts on here, I must say.

DwarfPlanetFiend · 15/11/2023 18:44

I can see the sight of the atrocity from my local Sainsbury's. It won't ever be forgotten in these parts.

I do think prison should be about rehabilitation rather than punishment though. **

GirrlCrush · 15/11/2023 18:57

Ohtobetwentytwo · 15/11/2023 18:32

🙄 to your response.

So are you campaigning? Because otherwise your thread is worse than my comment. You've started a thread about murdered children land you're starting drama. Seriously, have a word with yourself.

Exactly this!

Whiteday · 15/11/2023 19:03

Ohtobetwentytwo · 15/11/2023 18:32

🙄 to your response.

So are you campaigning? Because otherwise your thread is worse than my comment. You've started a thread about murdered children land you're starting drama. Seriously, have a word with yourself.

It wasn't murder, you know nothing about the case, clearly!

I don't need to start a campaign.

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WhereIsBebèsChambre · 15/11/2023 19:16

ManateeFair · 15/11/2023 17:28

All court cases are extremely complicated. The aggravating and mitigating factors, the motive, and the precise role played by each person, in comparison to the others involved, all affect sentencing. Paul Mosley and Mairead Philpott were deemed to have played a lesser role in the crime than Mick Philpott, so Mick Philpott got life and Mairead Philpott (who was released three years ago, FYI) and Mosley got a lesser sentence.

Unless you were actually in the court room to hear the full details of the case and the aggravating and mitigating factors. You can't base a justice system on kneejerk reactions to headlines.

What aggravating and mitigating circumstances would be acceptable for someone setting fire to a house with 6 children trapped inside?
I honestly struggle to understand how somebody can think 'oh poor criminal, how awful for them, they should be hugged and given things, not punished!!'

Concannon88 · 15/11/2023 19:32

Wow so aggressive. If you think they should have recieved life, then what sentence would murderers received?

Whiteday · 15/11/2023 19:37

Concannon88 · 15/11/2023 19:32

Wow so aggressive. If you think they should have recieved life, then what sentence would murderers received?

It's possible to get life for manslaughter! Six innocent children killed, they should've got life.

Murderer like manslaughter should be judged on each case.

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RecoveringBorderlineIsBack · 15/11/2023 19:42

Whenever I feel the death penalty may be inhumane I remember cases like this. No sympathy for any of them.

RecoveringBorderlineIsBack · 15/11/2023 19:46

JellyMops · 15/11/2023 17:57

But the other one didn't. He now lives a quiet, law abiding life.

You're right . Robert Thompson has not reoffended so rehabilitation sometimes does work. As it did with Mary Bell. I find it interesting that Thompson and Bell both had extremely horrific upbringings too but both have been successfully helped.

MyCircumference · 15/11/2023 19:47

just seen the link

Showtime79 · 15/11/2023 19:49

In this soft country of ours, we give too many chances to people. If you are recalled to prison then for me you should serve the rest of your sentence. Why are our laws so soft? I know the prisons are full but they should build more and send a message out to people. The number of people in my town getting off with suspended sentences for quite serious offences is ridiculous currently.

miniaturepixieonacid · 15/11/2023 19:53

I don't remember this case - how one earth was it manslaughter if the fire was deliberate?! Did he not know the children were inside?

Regardless, I agree with you - nowhere near enough time for killing 6 children! And in a house fire too - what a terrifying, slow way to die. Just horrendous.

Whiteday · 15/11/2023 19:54

miniaturepixieonacid · 15/11/2023 19:53

I don't remember this case - how one earth was it manslaughter if the fire was deliberate?! Did he not know the children were inside?

Regardless, I agree with you - nowhere near enough time for killing 6 children! And in a house fire too - what a terrifying, slow way to die. Just horrendous.

There was a documentary on about it, it's harrowing but insightful.

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LemonLimeDivine · 15/11/2023 19:54

Bastard deserves either a noose or a bullet.

miniaturepixieonacid · 15/11/2023 19:54

Never mind, cross posted with the link above which explains - still disgusting. How dare they be so cavalier with people's lives. Especially children's.

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