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To ask if you have enough for retirement?

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PestilencialCrisis · 15/11/2023 13:25

Saw this today. I'm a single parent. I halved my wage when I had children, and also my pension contributions. Anyone else worried about retirement? Should the government step in and protect women's pension pots more?

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/single-mothers-retirement-scottish-widows-report-b2447486.html

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TessDurbeyfieldisalive · 16/11/2023 09:44

LaurieStrode · 15/11/2023 21:07

Lots of people with 3 or 4 children made these children with a partner that they assumed would be contributing to their upkeep. Many relationships break down for a number of reasons and as the article highlights, women are disproportionately affected as they then have to reduce their working hours and/or pay for childcare leaving little to nothing over at the end of the month to put in their pension pot. Meanwhile, the man is still working full time and still paying handsomely into his pension fund. The gender pension gap is obscene.

But all a matter of choices and consequences.

You know what the say about assumptions...

If it's known that many relationships break down, and it is known, why not more aggressively protect oneself from the start.?? I've no sympathy for people who fail to plan and then complain about the inevitable outcomes.

But you're basing that judgement on your own experience and education. Many people don't have that, me included. I grew up with no financial education from my parents. I was homeless at 17. I needed all the spare cash I had. Now I'm more financially literate I am taking steps to rectify that but at the age where I made decisions about DC/jobs etc I didn't have a clue.

EmpressSoleil · 16/11/2023 09:51

But then if you are dependant on state pension alone and don't have the full 35 years contributions, pension credit will top it up. So realistically, no pensioner should be getting less than £200 per week. But they have to know to claim it. Of course, if they do own their own home and need major majors, that's a big problem. They won't be able to pay for it. And yes, I get the point that JSA is meant to be temporary but we all know it often isn't. And that isn't always solely on the person claiming. There are areas where work is very hard to come by. Plus the longer you spend on JSA the less "employable" you become. But that's a different topic.

I guess a better comparison might be some people I know working now. Low wages, minus rent or mortgage, travel to work, full council tax payments etc and they are left with less than £800 a month and they're working full time. That's not uncommon. My sister has around £500 p/m for food and utilities, which is all my mum needs to pay for. So my mums much better off than my sister. Yeah it's true she can't go off on long cruises or whatever. But she can eat well, heat her home, etc etc. She's not stuck in one room shivering in a blanket eating soup. Which is the picture that's being painted.

riotlady · 16/11/2023 12:07

I’m 30, so I don’t have it all saved up yet but I should be ok if everything stays on track. I’ll have my civil service pension, which I pay extra into so I can take it 3 years before state retirement age. My mortgage should be paid off by 60. And I’m hoping to put some away in a private pension when my earnings go up at work. I’m not relying on there being much in the way of state pension by the time I retire

ScrubMommy · 16/11/2023 12:52

@usernamealreadytaken it's a thread about if you've got enough for your pension.

@LaurieStrode was challenged and answered factually, not sure where you got being boastful from?

StarlightLady · 16/11/2023 13:05

I need to know 2 key things.

  1. What the inflation rate will be.
  2. When am I going to die.

Grim isn't it? Tell me the answers to that and then I will know.

user1497207191 · 16/11/2023 13:17

rumred · 15/11/2023 20:42

You don't need the same level of income in retirement as when younger, as long as mortgage is paid. I'm on a low pension but have cut back to live comfortably. The younger me didn't realise I'd need less. It's worth knowing

This! I've seen many cases where pension salesmen/women have basically conned people into making stupidly high investments in pension schemes by comparing their "wages" when working against pension forecasts, cleverly not mentioning that their costs will plummet, i.e. no commuting to work, no work related costs such as office clothing, buying coffees/lunches daily, etc., less tax/nic on a smaller gross income (and of course, no NIC on pension income), mortgage paid off, no longer paying for other insurances such as life insurance, sickness insurance, and of course, assuming kids have left home, not paying for their food, clothes, transport, hobbies, extra curricula, school fees, subsidising Uni, etc. etc. Once you've retired and your kids have left home, your costs plummet!

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