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Obsessive neighbour losing the plot over leaves

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Sparkies2012 · 13/11/2023 20:40

Our neighbours are a relatively elderly couple and since they moved in have had a bee in their bonnet over leaves that blow onto their driveway. The gate to our driveway is opposite to their open driveway, separated by a narrow road. Our next door neighbour has a massive old tree in their garden that produces a lot of leaves, most of which fall into our driveway. We don’t really bother collecting the leaves, as it is an endless task at this time of the year, but the elderly couple is constantly on at us because the leaves blow across the road into their driveway and the odd one gets in their front door. Now we have told them we don’t produce the leaves, and they don’t bother us, so if they are bothered by the leaves either pick them up or take it up with our neighbour who owns the tree. But now they have even started collecting them in black bags and, under the cover of darkness, leaving them in front of our driveway gate, or throwing them over our fence. I’m tempted next time they do this to open the bag and dump it over their driveway again. AIBU by not picking up the leaves in our garden?

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ClawedButler · 14/11/2023 10:47

Can you pin, staple or sellotape the leaves back on the tree, perhaps? With a sign on the trunk reading

SORRY FOR BEING DECIDUOUS IN NOVEMBER

Coldia · 14/11/2023 10:47

housethatbuiltme · 14/11/2023 08:58

Record them doing it and report them for fly tipping.

I hate people who think natural things should follow there rules... leaves can blow where ever they want, they're LEAVES.

When they're wet they do get hazardous re slipping if left on the path though, especially once we start getting frosts. Great for gardens, terrible if you want to walk anywhere.

PuzzledObserver · 14/11/2023 10:49

Ballsbaill · 13/11/2023 21:25

Seriously go round her house and knock the door. Dump the bags back and say it's not your tree and tell her who's tree it is.

Tell if she does it again you'll report her for harrassment and fly tipping. Tell her you have a ring door bell and know it's her.
Say it to her face, no games. If she does it again report her.

This is the sensible, proportionate, adult course of action.

There is no need to take revenge. Simply tell them, clearly and calmly that

  1. the leaves don’t bother you
  2. you are under no obligation to clear them up and choose not to
  3. putting bags in front of your drive or over your fence is fly tipping and causing an obstruction and they need to stop it
  4. if they continue, you will report them to the council, with evidence from your security system to back it up.
Crikeyalmighty · 14/11/2023 10:50

As I said on a post earlier- whilst it is annoying as hell- I would leave them to it and say nothing , very very sad that they have nothing better to do with their lives, but I have found some older people (I'm 61) become obsessed about life admin 'stuff' - be it bins or trees or parking or neighbours gardens

redalex261 · 14/11/2023 10:52

Oh my god, @coldcallerbaiter, I actually spat out my coffee! Please, please OP post the unstamped letter containing a single leaf! My neighbour sweeps entire drive every dry day, and carries on to sweep the pavement in front of her house. Garden and drive immaculately chipped, with pots containing cowering little bedding plants. Nothing exuberant - just regimented and symmetrical. I would hide behind the couch if she came to my door, I am definitely not property proud enough for her!! (it is whispered she cleans behind her fridge every week!)

MrsSkylerWhite · 14/11/2023 10:54

I can understand why elderly people are concerned about slippery leaves but it’s not your problem. Put the bags back on their drive.

longtompot · 14/11/2023 10:56

coldcallerbaiter · 13/11/2023 22:39

Post them a letter in the red letterbox without a stamp, they will need to pay a charge to collect it, when they open it, it shall contain a leaf.

This actually made me lol!

PuzzledObserver · 14/11/2023 11:02

OP, are you a gardener yourself, with a compost heap? If you did gather the leaves (because you wanted to), where would you be putting them?

Where I live, a green waste bin is a chargeable extra. Why should YOU have to get one, if you wouldn’t otherwise have one, just to please them?

If they’re fit enough to gather the leaves and put them in black bags, they’re fit enough to put them on their own compost heap or in their own garden waste bin.

rileynexttime · 14/11/2023 11:03

I think we should demonstrate for the council to be clear - call for a ceasefire now .
The OP's retaliation needs to be proportionate to the crime .

longtompot · 14/11/2023 11:05

Itwasafterallallaboutme · 14/11/2023 02:13

I am old, and I love leaves, particularly those on our deciduous trees. After a long winter you suddenly see hundreds of little buds on the trees, and as the days get longer and brighter they start to unfurl, then it seems like one day you go out and all the trees are fully robed in their glowing mantles of differing shades of green, with the occassional glorious purplely copper of the Copper Beech Tree 💜🧡💚

But all too soon the days of shimmering heat arising from the earth beneath our feet, and the sounds of bees drunkenly buzzing around our nectar filled blooms, turn cooler and fresher; but we can't be sad, because now is the time that our glorious trees prepare and dress in all their multi coloured hues of reds and yellows and orange for the seasons last great ball!

But there can be no prize for the Best Dressed Tree, as they are all magnificent in their own spectacular ways...

The following morning those stunning wooden masterpieces start to gently shed their sumptuous robes in the most mesmerising dance of the seven veils, one that Salome herself would have been proud of. Sometimes the dance can swirl and whirl for a period of life enhancing time, but sometimes it can be dangerously short - only through the vagaries of nature can the veils gracefully drop as if to the soft, redolent, and nurturing forest floor, or be whipped to a frenzy in more of a dance of the Tarantella than the tease of a sensual burlesque dancer. The resulting colouful, but sadly short lived carpet, is like a cosy and welcoming blanket that helps bring delight into this old lady's life.

The starkness and bitter coldness of our darkest months, throw into profile the sudden nakedness of those transcendant skeletal figures, and the bareness of their branches only serve to highlight and emphasise the differing seasons of these beloved, life giving, sedentary souls.

Thank you Trees, no Earth life could survive without you. You are Gaia's and our Nourishment - The very air that we breathe.
🌳🌿🍃🍂🍁

Thank you for this. Such beautiful words 🌱🌿🍃🍂🍁

CaramacFiend · 14/11/2023 11:06

They sound a bit obsessed tbh, although leaves can be a nightmare blocking gutters etc (not the issue here I know).

housethatbuiltme · 14/11/2023 11:18

Coldia · 14/11/2023 10:47

When they're wet they do get hazardous re slipping if left on the path though, especially once we start getting frosts. Great for gardens, terrible if you want to walk anywhere.

But do you blame your neighbor for rain and frost?

You can dislike it (I dislike most weather here) but its still a natural thing, nature is going to nature... trees and rain/cold was here before humans and will be long after.

soggytodger · 14/11/2023 11:25

I would ask the police to have a quick word with them. That will sort them out.

Cheesecakefiend · 14/11/2023 11:41

Bloody weirdos. Why are people so strange ?! I would be suggesting they look to move to a detached farm house with no neighbours or trees nearby.

Cheesecakefiend · 14/11/2023 11:42

ClawedButler · 14/11/2023 10:47

Can you pin, staple or sellotape the leaves back on the tree, perhaps? With a sign on the trunk reading

SORRY FOR BEING DECIDUOUS IN NOVEMBER

😂

Greenpolkadot · 14/11/2023 11:50

CatherinedeBourgh · 13/11/2023 21:18

As a gardener, I'd be delighted. Raking up leaves and putting them in plastic bags to leave for a year and make beautiful leaf mould is a drag, but worth it for the benefit to the plants.

I'd love it if someone did that for me.

Leaf mould is fab stuff.
Can't understand these neighbours..its leaves..not turds

Gettingbysomehow · 14/11/2023 11:51

I had neighbours like this in my last house. They were crackers. I remember them losing the plot over some fox poo.
I said they should go and live in a glass dome so no troublesome trees or pesky wild life could get at them. They didn't speak to me again.

Moveoverdarlin · 14/11/2023 11:56

I’m going against the majority but to keep the peace and not wind up the elderly neighbours I would rake up the leaves on your drive once a week and put them in your green bin or keep them in bags. I wouldn't pick up every last leaf but I’d make a 15 minute effort to pick up the majority. I’d knock on the neighbours door and say ‘Look, they’re not our leaves but I’ll pick them up once a week to keep things tidy, that ok? Let’s not fall out.’ I’d rather live next door to people that got wound up about leaves (they’re probably worried they’ll slip on them) than people with noisy kids, loud music, antisocial behaviour etc.

SinnerBoy · 14/11/2023 12:00

Gettingbysomehow · Today 11:51

I said they should go and live in a glass dome so no troublesome trees or pesky wild life could get at them. They didn't speak to me again.

Result!

MonumentalLentil · 14/11/2023 12:10

Put one of these in your window with a sign that says 'I am watching you'

Obsessive neighbour losing the plot over leaves
moomoomoo27 · 14/11/2023 12:13

There's a lot of interesting scientific research about how brains decline in older age as a normal thing (not as extreme as dementia or alzheimer's or anything), but people don't realise it, which is why their behaviour starts to seem strange to others but appears logical to them.

DarkWingDuck · 14/11/2023 12:15

Tip the leaves back on your driveway.

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Crikeyisthatthetime · 14/11/2023 12:29

halesie · 14/11/2023 04:38

We are in a very tree-sy area. Neighbours built an outdoor kitchen and patio area right under our largest tree, after which they realised for the first time that leaves fall in autumn and decided that we should pay to prune our tree... having been manipulated by them into a previous £££ garden change shortly after moving in, funnily enough we weren't up for spending more money than we have to fund more of their vanity projects [noisy garden piss-ups]. They paid to remove the overhanging branches [and ones several feet into our garden without our permission, CFs] but sadly there are still leaves in their garden this autumn Grin

As for your neighbour, I'm afraid hell hath no fury like that of a baby boomer who's been mildly inconvenienced...

ODFO with your boomer comment.
I was enjoying this thread up to now.