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Why do you celebrate Xmas?

181 replies

CoffeeTeaCoffee · 11/11/2023 22:52

Why do you celebrate Xmas or what does it mean to you? Especially if you are not religious?

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ElaineMBenes · 12/11/2023 20:44

Just celebrate your birthday instead.

But Christmas is collective. A birthday isn't.

The thing I love about Christmas is the traditions and the collective celebrations.
It's my favourite time of year

sashh · 13/11/2023 02:35

IncompleteSenten · 12/11/2023 20:28

The UK is a Christian country? Really? Something like 5% of the population attend church regularly apparently. I wouldn't call that a Christian country.

Having a wedding in a church then not going near it again until the babies are baptised then not stepping foot inside again apart from funerals does not count as Christian.

And half of that 5% are just trying to get their child in to a particular school.

Freeasabird76 · 13/11/2023 02:39

Yep because its expected and I have kids,if it was just me my family would still expect me to get involved.

BrimfulOfMash · 13/11/2023 08:22

The UK is a Christian country? Really? Something like 5% of the population attend church regularly apparently. I wouldn't call that a Christian country.

I am an atheist in religious terms: I have no faith in any god. But my cultural references are shaped (alongside of her factors) by Christianity: art, music, lots of literature. My values are influenced by Christianity.

Of course many of these values are at the heart of other religions too, but the philosophy in the parables is core to my approach to the world.

It’s all part of my identity as a British person: Wry humour, putting up with the weather, queueing, welling up at Christmas Carols sung in the square by a choir, bonfire night, harvest festival, espousing chicken tikka masala as the nations favourite dish, Easter eggs, being tolerant of eccentricity, and so on.

Forsakenalmosthuman · 13/11/2023 08:23

Because only miserable buggers don't.

structural · 13/11/2023 08:29

Forsakenalmosthuman · 13/11/2023 08:23

Because only miserable buggers don't.

All other religions = miserable buggers. Okay.

watchingtheworldwithwoe · 13/11/2023 08:34

MushMonster · 11/11/2023 23:01

Because we are all together, the whole family, and it is great to repeat traditions, make new ones and enjoy the time together.

This. We aren't Christian but sort of feel Christmas has become a British thing not a religious thing.

Forsakenalmosthuman · 13/11/2023 08:44

structural · 13/11/2023 08:29

All other religions = miserable buggers. Okay.

I have Jewish, Muslim and atheist friends who celebrate Christmas.

Do you really think it's only the preserve of ultra-Christian Bible-Bashers?

structural · 13/11/2023 08:54

Forsakenalmosthuman · 13/11/2023 08:44

I have Jewish, Muslim and atheist friends who celebrate Christmas.

Do you really think it's only the preserve of ultra-Christian Bible-Bashers?

No but most people who belong to other religions, including most if the world, don't celebrate Christmas. Doesn't make them miserable buggers.

Forsakenalmosthuman · 13/11/2023 09:05

But they're not living here, are they, Miss Obtuse 2023.

RedPony1 · 13/11/2023 09:08

I'm an Atheist, but i love Christmas! I love the decorations, lights, and time off. i love buying thoughtful gifts and seeing some family.

LadyOfTheCanyon · 13/11/2023 09:16

There's not many times of the year that our family can get together but everyone makes the effort at Christmas. We all really get on as well which always makes these things nice. No children in the family any more as we're all adults but we still play games, sing songs, go for walks and eat and drink too much.

My friends and I also do a lot more together in the run up to Christmas - Carol concerts, markets, mulled wine evenings, get togethers.

It's a great time of year. I love winter. I'm a Pagan and relish the deepest darkest part of the year at Yule as a time to seek out warmth and comfort and companionship as the wheel of the year turns and the seeds lay waiting in the soil for the first sunlight of spring. The quiet, the hush, the bright clear skies.

structural · 13/11/2023 09:22

Forsakenalmosthuman · 13/11/2023 09:05

But they're not living here, are they, Miss Obtuse 2023.

Some of them are. 🤨

sashh · 13/11/2023 09:27

Forsakenalmosthuman · 13/11/2023 08:23

Because only miserable buggers don't.

I'm not miserable.

swinginwind · 13/11/2023 10:00

Lovepeaceunderstanding · 11/11/2023 23:02

I was bought up as a Christian. When I was young Christmas was definitely a celebration of the birth of Christ. At the same time it was the most precious family time, a time where I felt most loved. It was absolutely joyful and Christmas memories remain precious to me.
Im not religious now but that glorious closeness of family is what continues to make it special and in particular to pass on to younger generations that joy and wonder, that little bit of magic. I love it.

Exactly the same for me

swinginwind · 13/11/2023 10:03

It’s all part of my identity as a British person: Wry humour, putting up with the weather, queueing, welling up at Christmas Carols sung in the square by a choir, bonfire night, harvest festival, espousing chicken tikka masala as the nations favourite dish, Easter eggs, being tolerant of eccentricity, and so on

This made me smile. Very true

Forsakenalmosthuman · 13/11/2023 10:54

structural · 13/11/2023 09:22

Some of them are. 🤨

Sigh.

Celebrating Christmas is largely cultural rather than religious. Hence why so many non-Christians here celebrate it, while not all Christians do. The way whether or not you wear a hijab or get circumcised or keep dogs in the house or whatever is cultural rather than religious.

Is it such a difficult concept for you to grasp? Of course not. You're being obtuse.

And miserable.😃

structural · 13/11/2023 11:03

Forsakenalmosthuman · 13/11/2023 10:54

Sigh.

Celebrating Christmas is largely cultural rather than religious. Hence why so many non-Christians here celebrate it, while not all Christians do. The way whether or not you wear a hijab or get circumcised or keep dogs in the house or whatever is cultural rather than religious.

Is it such a difficult concept for you to grasp? Of course not. You're being obtuse.

And miserable.😃

Yes, lots of non-Christians in the UK celebrate Christmas. And lots don't. They don't deserve to be insulted for it. Bit whatever makes you feel superior to other people I suppose.

Forsakenalmosthuman · 13/11/2023 11:09

Not superior, just more cheerful than those who deliberately forgo the most culturally massive and fun holiday of the year.

It's like people who shriek at trick or treating kids, or don't let their kids participate in Easter egg hunts at school. Fun sponges.

Maddy70 · 13/11/2023 11:12

Atheist here. It's a tradition , and excuse to get together, have some laughs brightens up mid winter

structural · 13/11/2023 11:13

Forsakenalmosthuman · 13/11/2023 11:09

Not superior, just more cheerful than those who deliberately forgo the most culturally massive and fun holiday of the year.

It's like people who shriek at trick or treating kids, or don't let their kids participate in Easter egg hunts at school. Fun sponges.

I'm not sure someone not celebrating Christmas and probably celebrating their own religious festival instead is equivalent to shrieking at children but okay.

Aposterhasnoname · 13/11/2023 11:18

Because it’s the best bit of the year.

Gerrataere · 13/11/2023 11:19

Christmas never belonged to Christians, they just appropriated it. When it was a winter festival, pagans celebrated with some good old debauchery. Then Christianity came along and like with anything fun put a stop to all that. Luckily times have moved on and we can celebrate it the old way, religious way or not at all. It’s a fantastic time for togetherness whatever your lifestyle.

Personally, Christmas isn’t for me. But the kids obviously catch on to it all, it would be a bit mean to say ‘no we don’t do Santa and presents’ when 99% of the country partake regardless of religion or beliefs.

CousinGoldfinch · 13/11/2023 17:32

LeavesinAutumn · 12/11/2023 12:32

Op why do you or don't you celebrate?

It's the darkest point of the year, it's wonderful to mark this with hope, lights and doing something fun.

The story of Mary and jesus is the perfect antidote to the excess around Christmas whether you believe in God or not.

Father Christmas, oranges, cinnamon, songs it's a brilliant collective thing we all do. It's quirky, exciting and in life where tragedy after tragedy occurs its nice to do something happy.

This is lovely.

DinoDaddy · 13/11/2023 17:38

We like new stuff. And nice food and booze. And having time off work to spend with family. What's not to like? I have no interest in the religious aspects of it. Christmas has pagan roots in Yule anyway, the Christians just nicked it like most of their other stuff.