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Smoking weed from morning to night, every day, when you have children to look after is wrong.

56 replies

420no · 11/11/2023 09:14

A couple I know abuse cannabis. I do believe there's a difference between people who occasionally partake on the weekend, or when their children are not about, or people who require and use it medicinally.. and people like the ones I'm describing who abuse it to this extent.

I'm sure most people have atleast tried weed, I certainly have when I was younger, but these people smoke it from morning until night and centre their whole lives around it.

First thing in the morning the dad is rolling up and hanging out of the kitchen window with bed head puffing away. This continues throughout the day. He comes and goes in his car, clearly high as a kite.

The mum is exactly the same. They both stink of it so the children must too. Why normalise drug abuse around your young children?

AIBU to think it's wrong?

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TheHawkisHowling · 11/11/2023 17:21

I think you should keep your beak out. If they smoke it all the time, they're unlikely to be feeling much effect from smoking at all. Hence the reason they can smoke that much and still function as parents.

I don't really see it as any different to someone who needs to be taking strong painkillers regularly. Which I do. And I can assure you I am perfectly capable of driving and looking after children, even on a dose that would send most people to sleep.

This is a drug that is legal in many places. It's an effective treatment for several illnesses. It's not equivalent to getting your face in a bag of coke every morning and then washing it down with whiskey.

KAM1997 · 11/11/2023 17:23

I'm sorry but how can someone who regularly takes drugs be able to safely function! They may be able to get by as their body is used to it but their senses and decision making will be impaired. Your just an making excuses for him. It's not acceptable to look after children under the influence of anything particularly those completely dependant.

HamsterBanana · 11/11/2023 17:23

It's really unlikely for a heavy stoner to be a heavy drinker as well, I think someone's telling porkies for a rise.

HamsterBanana · 11/11/2023 17:25

KAM1997 · 11/11/2023 17:23

I'm sorry but how can someone who regularly takes drugs be able to safely function! They may be able to get by as their body is used to it but their senses and decision making will be impaired. Your just an making excuses for him. It's not acceptable to look after children under the influence of anything particularly those completely dependant.

It's really not impaired, you can get so used to it that you can function completely fine.

I'm not saying get behind a wheel and drive, but you can still be a decent parent and smoke and able to make decisions.

420no · 11/11/2023 17:25

Maddy70 · 11/11/2023 17:21

It's very unusual for stoners to be heavy drinkers as you suggest.

The weed wouldn't bother me but I can't understand why you haven't reported domestic violence

I don't think they are big drinkers, they just happen to kick off when they have had a drink. They can't seem to have a drink together without it descending into a barny.

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420no · 11/11/2023 17:27

TheHawkisHowling · 11/11/2023 17:21

I think you should keep your beak out. If they smoke it all the time, they're unlikely to be feeling much effect from smoking at all. Hence the reason they can smoke that much and still function as parents.

I don't really see it as any different to someone who needs to be taking strong painkillers regularly. Which I do. And I can assure you I am perfectly capable of driving and looking after children, even on a dose that would send most people to sleep.

This is a drug that is legal in many places. It's an effective treatment for several illnesses. It's not equivalent to getting your face in a bag of coke every morning and then washing it down with whiskey.

Is it against the law to drive after taking your painkillers?

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tpxqi · 11/11/2023 17:28

I’m sure the taxpayer is paying for the privilege of their ‘habit’ also. It’s an absolute joke with these feckless wasters.

420no · 11/11/2023 17:29

HamsterBanana · 11/11/2023 17:23

It's really unlikely for a heavy stoner to be a heavy drinker as well, I think someone's telling porkies for a rise.

What are you going on about?

I didn't say they're heavy drinkers. I said they kick off with one another when they've had a drink. I didn't say how often that is, only that it happens.

Can you show me where I have said they are heavy drinkers?

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PS5GoesBeep · 11/11/2023 17:32

HamsterBanana · 11/11/2023 17:23

It's really unlikely for a heavy stoner to be a heavy drinker as well, I think someone's telling porkies for a rise.

Unlikely but not completely unheard of. The couple downstairs from me smoke weed all day, every day and are also extremely heavy drinkers based on the recycling I see them take out.

MooseAndSquirrelLoveFlannel · 11/11/2023 17:35

Cannabis stays in the system for a long time. So even if he only smokes a joint in the evening, he still wouldn't be legal to drive his kids to school the next morning.

People who accept the use of weed are what is wrong with society. It's a drug well known for causing a variety of mental health issues along side its antisocial behaviour links. Plus, it fucking stinks to high heaven!!!

You need to report to social services if these two are using drugs whilst meant to be in charge of children. You also need to report the domestic violence when you hear it.

Jewelspun · 11/11/2023 17:36

Anything that takes over your life and is unhealthy is detrimental to raising children.

Cannabis, alcohol and other drugs are the ones most people think of and do not condone.

However, obesity and poor diet and lack of exercise is probably the most common problem in families that are unhealthy yet you get shot down and accused of 'fat shaming' if you say anything! 🙄

Thepeopleversuswork · 11/11/2023 17:38

I mean...
Constant weed smoking (as opposed to occasional recreational smoking) is shit parenting. But I wouldn't bother reporting to police, they won't do anything about it.
SS might if you could provide evidence that the children were being neglected but you seem not to have any proof of this.

420no · 11/11/2023 17:41

I don't think me reporting their fights will achieve anything other than causing me grief at the door. I've had endless problems with them already.

Neither are likely to cooperate with the police as they're from "the streets" (his words) and it's just normal in their circles. The police wouldn't be able to do anything until they come upstairs and kick my head in instead

Edited to add, I think the DC spend alot of time at the grandparents.

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TheHawkisHowling · 11/11/2023 17:44

420no · 11/11/2023 17:27

Is it against the law to drive after taking your painkillers?

Only if they make you drowsy. So it's a yes and no. For me, absolutely not. I could run a marathon on mine (if I was capable of running of marathon!!).

This is what I mean about weed. It's not really going to be doing anything if you smoke it all the time. I don't really see the point of smoking it like that recreationally because it's doing sweet FA.

420no · 11/11/2023 17:46

Thepeopleversuswork · 11/11/2023 17:38

I mean...
Constant weed smoking (as opposed to occasional recreational smoking) is shit parenting. But I wouldn't bother reporting to police, they won't do anything about it.
SS might if you could provide evidence that the children were being neglected but you seem not to have any proof of this.

No proof at all. They may well be good enough parents when they're not fighting. I've lived here for 7ish months now and only seen their DC three or four times as opposed to seeing the bloke every other day and the woman a bit less than him. I never hear their kids either.

So I don't know about as parents but as people they are absolutely awful.

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420no · 11/11/2023 17:48

TheHawkisHowling · 11/11/2023 17:44

Only if they make you drowsy. So it's a yes and no. For me, absolutely not. I could run a marathon on mine (if I was capable of running of marathon!!).

This is what I mean about weed. It's not really going to be doing anything if you smoke it all the time. I don't really see the point of smoking it like that recreationally because it's doing sweet FA.

Why they smoke it when they get little effects, It's the same with most substance addictions. They are constantly chasing the high they once felt before they developed the tolerance. I know weed isn't physically addictive (or is it?) but I know it's incredibly psychologically addictive.

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Vettrianofan · 11/11/2023 17:56

wiltshirelass1418 · 11/11/2023 16:36

They may have legal medical prescriptions, in which case there is nothing you can do

Cannabis oil you mean?

glossypeach · 11/11/2023 18:00

i completely agree. I don’t have anything against cannabis, but I treat it like I do alcohol. And you would judge someone drinking all day everyday, so that applies to people smoking weed. But people see weed as ‘fine’. Including family courts unfortunately. When I went to family court my ex failed multiple drug tests regarding weed and the courts didn’t even bat an eye and gave him unsupervised contact as it’s ‘just weed’ as long as he didn’t use 2 hours before having our child or around our child??

TheHawkisHowling · 11/11/2023 18:02

420no · 11/11/2023 17:48

Why they smoke it when they get little effects, It's the same with most substance addictions. They are constantly chasing the high they once felt before they developed the tolerance. I know weed isn't physically addictive (or is it?) but I know it's incredibly psychologically addictive.

People say it's not addictive but people also smoke it all day every day for no good reason so there's something there. It's not like some drugs where you would get serious withdrawal symptoms, but there's definitely a compulsive element to it.

AnnieMay55 · 11/11/2023 18:06

I sympathize with you op. Someone I know is living in a flat next door to a similar couple with a one year old. The smell seeps through the walls of their flat. The smell is in the stairwell as soon as you enter the block. They live on the 2nd and top floor. They are also in and out and people calling all day so more than likely dealing. My friends hear violence ,the flat being smashed up and threats to life. They have called the police at least 3 times when they heard him threatening to kill her. The police have responded but like often happens in incidences of abuse, she denies there is a problem. They have also reported them to the housing association. It is not right that other people have to live alongside them.

wiltshirelass1418 · 11/11/2023 19:52

@Vettrianofan no, flower, cartridges, pastilles can also be prescribed as well as oil

SugaredCookie · 11/11/2023 20:00

I agree. It’s rank.

Ladyj84 · 11/11/2023 20:04

Your reluctant to report a man who could potentially kill someone wow. We reported someone we knew and they followed it up the same morning and turned out he was also over the limit in alcohol.No the person doesn't find out who reported and one less off the street who's dangerous

420no · 11/11/2023 20:05

Ladyj84 · 11/11/2023 20:04

Your reluctant to report a man who could potentially kill someone wow. We reported someone we knew and they followed it up the same morning and turned out he was also over the limit in alcohol.No the person doesn't find out who reported and one less off the street who's dangerous

Read the posts properly. I did report him for drug driving. It's their domestics I haven't reported.

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ComeOnThenFanny · 11/11/2023 21:27

TheHawkisHowling · 11/11/2023 18:02

People say it's not addictive but people also smoke it all day every day for no good reason so there's something there. It's not like some drugs where you would get serious withdrawal symptoms, but there's definitely a compulsive element to it.

As someone who smoked weed pretty much every day for about 30 years, I can tell you that it is definitely physically addictive as well as psychologically. If you're a heavy weed smoker, you don't smoke to get high, you smoke because you feel like absolute shit if you don't.