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Teacher odd interaction

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Letsnowalready · 10/11/2023 22:16

So today a weird interaction happened. Im a TA in a primary school. My teacher is a new supply teacher to the school and is also newly qualified. He made a karate noise and then the class started laughing and someone shouted oh you werent here Mrs........ they then all began shouting and laughing and saying Mr ........ almost kicked this certain pupil in the head by doing a karate kick. I said what's that I don't understand. The teacher then said class what have I told you about telling tales and sheepishly laughing. Then he said you say someone did this and don't name names.
I later asked the boy who it happened to and he said yea it was so funny apparently I bent down and Mr...... almost kicked me in the head and said come on (pupils name).
This pupil it happened to seems to be one that this teacher singles out alot. He had previously called this child annoying to his face in front of the class. Always picks him out to tuck his polo in. Picks him out to answer questions and says oh I better do this otherwise (pupil name) would say something to me.
I don't know if he thinks it's just banter but I just feel weird about it. What do others think?

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SinnerBoy · 11/11/2023 09:39

*ilovesooty" · Today 08:52

- Is the teacher tucking his shirt in? -

Irrelevant.

Really? Are you saying that a teacher picking a pupil out regularly and touching them is irrelevant?

Stellaroses · 11/11/2023 09:39

Any concerns - report. You should know that.

However to me it really doesn’t sound like anything and the most important factor for me would be the boy in question. If he is particularly distractable, or under confident, or clever, or needs a bit more attention aimed his way in order to stay engaged …there are a million reasons why it might appear that he is singling this pupil out. The karate kick thing sounds completely silly and innocuous to me but let your SLT decide.

Skyblue92 · 11/11/2023 09:41

SinnerBoy · 11/11/2023 09:39

*ilovesooty" · Today 08:52

- Is the teacher tucking his shirt in? -

Irrelevant.

Really? Are you saying that a teacher picking a pupil out regularly and touching them is irrelevant?

I think this poster assumed that they were asking if the teacher was tucking his own shirt in, not if he was tucking the child’s shirt in. Thats how I read it anyway

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 11/11/2023 09:45

I don’t think you were paying attention enough in your safeguarding training. It’s always very clear that you should report everything as it could be the last piece of a jigsaw. Go to your DSL. Tell them that you don’t understand what safeguarding is and what you are supposed to do and can you be retrained. Read the policy and read KCSIE.

In conjunction with this, do what you are supposed to do. Report to the DSL your concerns. DO NOT ASK CHILDREN QUESTIONS ABOUT SAFEGUARDING ISSUES! You are not supposed to ask questions or direct communication at all.

oh-and stop posting shit on social media.

VickyEadieofThigh · 11/11/2023 09:48

Skyblue92 · 11/11/2023 09:41

I think this poster assumed that they were asking if the teacher was tucking his own shirt in, not if he was tucking the child’s shirt in. Thats how I read it anyway

No, I think the question related to whether the teacher was simply telling the boy to tuck his shirt in (which is absolutely fine) or was touching him.

I'm also concerned about a member of staff who doesn't understand her school's safeguarding policy (which will be much the same as any other school's) and spends more time posting about it on social media than the few minutes it would take to report it to the school safeguarding lead.

Skyblue92 · 11/11/2023 10:02

VickyEadieofThigh · 11/11/2023 09:48

No, I think the question related to whether the teacher was simply telling the boy to tuck his shirt in (which is absolutely fine) or was touching him.

I'm also concerned about a member of staff who doesn't understand her school's safeguarding policy (which will be much the same as any other school's) and spends more time posting about it on social media than the few minutes it would take to report it to the school safeguarding lead.

I think this is the issue with how the comment was phrased, different people can take it in different way.

completely agree that OP has spent more time posting on social media than a knock on the HT door would have taken.

Maddy70 · 11/11/2023 10:08

The pupil is having fun in the class, he hasn't said he's being targeted. Has he?

Sounds. Like he has a good relationship with him tbh

It isn't your child so I wouldn't say anything

VickyEadieofThigh · 11/11/2023 10:11

Maddy70 · 11/11/2023 10:08

The pupil is having fun in the class, he hasn't said he's being targeted. Has he?

Sounds. Like he has a good relationship with him tbh

It isn't your child so I wouldn't say anything

No, even if she turns out to be wrong, staff should report any concerns. That's safeguarding 101.

Tonia16 · 11/11/2023 10:35

charlotte361 · 10/11/2023 22:29

I later asked the boy who it happened to and he said yea it was so funny
It sounds as though he has a great rapport with his class.You sound a little old school and maybe a little jealous??

This. You sound sanctimonious.

ilovesooty · 11/11/2023 10:37

SinnerBoy · 11/11/2023 09:39

*ilovesooty" · Today 08:52

- Is the teacher tucking his shirt in? -

Irrelevant.

Really? Are you saying that a teacher picking a pupil out regularly and touching them is irrelevant?

Sorry, I think we're at cross purposes. I thought you were asking whether the teacher followed the same uniform rules as the pupils.

ilovesooty · 11/11/2023 10:38

Skyblue92 · 11/11/2023 09:41

I think this poster assumed that they were asking if the teacher was tucking his own shirt in, not if he was tucking the child’s shirt in. Thats how I read it anyway

Thank you - yes.

AtomicBlondeRose · 11/11/2023 10:58

Whether or not the OP is jealous, sanctimonious or misreading the situation is irrelevant, she has concerns so she MUST report them. Motivation doesn’t enter into it and the safeguarding lead can decide for themselves whether it is a misunderstanding or indicative of something more. All the “nothing to do with you” comments are exactly WHY all staff in schools are safeguarding trained - because for years people got away with inappropriate behaviour as it was explained away by saying things like that!

SinnerBoy · 12/11/2023 00:49

ilovesooty

Sorry, I think we're at cross purposes. I thought you were asking whether the teacher followed the same uniform rules as the pupils.

No worries!

🙂

LadyHag · 12/11/2023 10:01

Maddy70 · 11/11/2023 10:08

The pupil is having fun in the class, he hasn't said he's being targeted. Has he?

Sounds. Like he has a good relationship with him tbh

It isn't your child so I wouldn't say anything

It isn't your child so I wouldn't say anything

Eh? So school staff should not report any safeguarding concerns about any children as they are not ther parents?

Also.op, dont address this with the teacher, it is not your role to question or tackle this, or risk tipping off - again, all safeguarding concerns about staff should go to the head

Lex345 · 12/11/2023 10:18

The whole point of safeguarding reporting protocols is so people who are not fully trained in assessing risk have a process for raising concerns to people with a higher level of training, who can investigate and assess properly.

I am more experienced in health and social care (adult) safeguarding than child (although you do have to cover both). Even when I was technically safeguarding lead as registered manager of a care home, I would absolutely be referring to the safeguarding team, and if at all unsure on investigating concern, I would get their advice first.

Report it. Then leave it. Do not question the child-if you are not confident on even reporting a concern, you definitely should not be under taking your own investigation.

LastNightIDreamtIWasAtManderleyAgain · 12/11/2023 14:18

He's asking children to keep secrets about behaviour that singles out pupils and breaches physical boundaries? He needs fired.

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