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AIBU the school should allow a later start time

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Ihateelves · 09/11/2023 15:13

DC school are having a musical production which is a whole class participation. ( 2 classes doing 2 separate shows )
they have been focusing on this for weeks in class and everyone is involved. They are year 4 and 5 students.
it is going to be performed at a different location from the school with other schools also performing musicals.
the children attended school by the usual 8.40 this morning for normal lessons they then left school just before lunch to head to Venue and did rehearsals for the rest of the day. The show then starts at 7pm and most children won’t get home until around 11pm.
we received an email today to remind us that they expect all year 4 and 5 students to be at school on time tomorrow.
I know every 8/9 year old is different but I can’t imagine the classroom will be fun for anyone tomorrow including the teacher !
I would have expected a later start time at least ?

OP posts:
Doone22 · 11/11/2023 22:42

There's nothing wrong with a child getting tired or hungry or sad. It's weird that people try and protect them from every single little element of life

Hankunamatata · 11/11/2023 23:30

You know your child. If they wouldn't cope keep them off for a quiet day

Whowhatwherewhenwhy1 · 11/11/2023 23:42

If mine were too tired the next day I would keep her home and let her sleep in or let her sleep on and bring her in late and explain to the school that she was fast asleep due to the late night they caused. It is primary school.

Whowhatwherewhenwhy1 · 11/11/2023 23:44

I decide what is in the best interests of my child as I am the parent and know how to meet my child’s needs and will always do what I feel is best for them over what school wants.

NoThanksymm · 12/11/2023 17:56

Year 4/5? Not 4 or 5 year olds! Even then, one night!

YBUR

lot of privilege to be able to have your kids stay home for a sleep in!

if you are THAT concerned just leave after your kids performance.

donquixotedelamancha · 12/11/2023 21:37

Strictlymad · 09/11/2023 15:26

I think they could accommodate both tbh, ‘dear parents school will be open at 8.40 as normal after the performance, but we understand that it has been a late night so won’t record late attendance that day. Please make sure your chip arrives between 8:40 and 10am.’

They can't. They are not legally allowed to do that. If they are open they have a duty to get kids in and are judged on that.

Just make your own decisions based on your kid's needs, rather than expecting schools to please everyone all the time.

Duechristmas · 14/11/2023 06:00

My kids' junior school used to do a singing event and we'd have the option of dropping them in later, only an option though as working parents often needed then in at the usual time.
My kids' secondary academy are really strict on working time directives, if a school event goes on past 8, the teachers involved come in an hour or so later the next day.

VisionsOfSplendour · 14/11/2023 06:13

Pooooochi · 10/11/2023 11:59

As a one off I think most children could manage this. The brilliant memories (including the excitement of a late night coach) will last longer than the detriment of a single late night might have on them.

But... its totally unnecessary. Its perfectly possible/easy to do it earlier, with no compromise required, so why don't they?

Not only is it late for the kids but think of the staff, im sure precisely none of them want to work late into their evening.

This sounds very much like Young Voices and if it is they couldn't possibly do it earlier. The vast majority of the parents will be working during the day and have to get to the venue

It's one day of being a bit tired, no wonder the younger generation can't cope with life

Dont let your child take part of it's such a problem

MyCircumference · 14/11/2023 06:32

it wont let me vote
but i think yanbu

Notgoodatpoetrybutgreatatlit · 14/11/2023 06:56

I work in a secondary I'm always amazed by what goes on in primary schools. The work involved by the staff to do these performances is enormous. I dont know about the kids but I bet the staff will be knackered for the rest of the week at least.
Massive applause for primary school colleagues!

TeachesOfPeaches · 14/11/2023 07:09

Just take your child in later then

CharlotteBog · 14/11/2023 07:30

If it's Young Voices please let your child do it.
My iPhone album has my son's YV photos and then a couple of weeks later, hard lockdown.
Take the great opportunities while you can.

Richard1985 · 14/11/2023 15:23

If your child wakes up on a particular day and you don't feel they are able to attend school for all or part of the day, then you can always choose to keep them off by informing the school ("Tarquin had a bad night" keeps it vague but truthful)

Raizin · 14/11/2023 16:33

The kids will be fine...

BeccaGeej · 14/11/2023 16:48

No school event should be planned for this late in the evening. DD is Y4 and would hate this. She's a lark, no problem with getting up early but can't cope with late nights. She'd be fine the next day but she'd be miserable all evening (as would I, having to go out that late after a full day at work). All the people saying it's fine are probably the ones whose kids have never had a bedtime routine and who are routinely up to all hours and then falling asleep in class the next day.

VisionsOfSplendour · 14/11/2023 17:51

BeccaGeej · 14/11/2023 16:48

No school event should be planned for this late in the evening. DD is Y4 and would hate this. She's a lark, no problem with getting up early but can't cope with late nights. She'd be fine the next day but she'd be miserable all evening (as would I, having to go out that late after a full day at work). All the people saying it's fine are probably the ones whose kids have never had a bedtime routine and who are routinely up to all hours and then falling asleep in class the next day.

Don't be daft, allowing a late night now and again dose not equal absence of structure and routine to bedtime and sleep management, that's laughable

Do you really think that all children should be denied opportunities because your daughter can't hack a one off late bedtime?

CharlotteBog · 14/11/2023 20:49

All the people saying it's fine are probably the ones whose kids have never had a bedtime routine and who are routinely up to all hours and then falling asleep in class the next day.

I find that quite insulting. My children were both fine with the odd late night. It's part of life.

Shinyandnew1 · 15/11/2023 07:53

BeccaGeej · 14/11/2023 16:48

No school event should be planned for this late in the evening. DD is Y4 and would hate this. She's a lark, no problem with getting up early but can't cope with late nights. She'd be fine the next day but she'd be miserable all evening (as would I, having to go out that late after a full day at work). All the people saying it's fine are probably the ones whose kids have never had a bedtime routine and who are routinely up to all hours and then falling asleep in class the next day.

Rubbish! All my kids sang in Young Voices at 9/10/11-it was a brilliant experience and they still mention it occasionally when they go back to the O2. I wouldn’t want them to miss out because you don’t want your child to have one late night.

MyEyesMyThighs · 15/11/2023 08:18

Kids start beavers/cubs/brownies at about 6 and go off to camp. They regularly stay up until the early hours and manage to climb a hill or do activities the whole next day. These are often parents who are on top of things, routine wise, as the wait list is about 18m long, so not for the chaotic (as suggested up thread).

The occasional late night, fuelled by excitement and adrenaline is part of childhood and kids cope fine.

LeggyLegsEleven · 15/11/2023 16:14

DD went on a school trip that was 7am until after 10pm. Year 5.
They had to go in the next day, loads didn’t turn up and the ones that did looked destroyed. It was actually a PD day the next day so I’m not sure why it wasn’t planned better.

crawfy86 · 19/12/2023 23:36

Im a teacher and it’s totally fine for one day. Teachers know they’ll all be tired but they will plan accordingly. There will be a buzz the next day after a performance anyway.

also, I know this line of thought isn’t for everyone but maybe it’s good for them to realise that you can’t just take a day off when you feel tired…

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