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If you go home early does it count as a sick day

14 replies

Ceci03 · 07/11/2023 11:52

Feeling awful at work. Just so tired and headachey. I'd love to go home . Have used a few sick days already though so should probably stick it out. No holidays left either .have been getting 2-3 hours of sleep only. Menopausal . Wwyd

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AgaMM · 07/11/2023 11:54

Depends on what time I went home. If I was there for most of the morning, I would log it as half a sick day.

Staticgirl · 07/11/2023 11:56

You should check your HR sickness policies. Your workplace should have a policy to explain how long you need t stay before leaving early is just leaving early. If you leave too early then yes it would be a sick day.

I have been feeling similar the last two weeks although since I got help with my insomnia (some CBT which actually worked) I am at least sleeping well. If you haven't been to the doc please consider it. However, you have my sympathies.

VisionsOfSplendour · 07/11/2023 11:58

I'd ask my employer, do you have an allocation of sick days, saying you've used them suggests you do so are you still within that allowance?

AgnesX · 07/11/2023 12:01

Where I am after 2pm isn't classed as a sick day and you're expected to make up the time. I don't think it's written down anywhere anywhere do depending on your company culture and what other people do, I'd see if I could take a half day leave.

AgnesX · 07/11/2023 12:03

VisionsOfSplendour · 07/11/2023 11:58

I'd ask my employer, do you have an allocation of sick days, saying you've used them suggests you do so are you still within that allowance?

In the UK you don't get an allocation of sick days. You're well enough to work, too sick to work(......) take annual or unpaid leave.

ProvenceWhipped · 07/11/2023 12:05

I was under the impression that if you asked to go home because you were unwell it's classed as a sick day but if you are told to go home because you are unwell it's not classed as a 'sick day' and they have to pay you as if you'd stayed in?

Hotchocolate2023 · 07/11/2023 12:06

At mine we can owe the time if we go home mid way through. I went home midday Thursday and had Friday off. I Owe work 3 hours time and have one day sick.

VisionsOfSplendour · 07/11/2023 12:12

AgnesX · 07/11/2023 12:03

In the UK you don't get an allocation of sick days. You're well enough to work, too sick to work(......) take annual or unpaid leave.

I know that but the OP says she's used sick days which suggests an allocation, she hasn't said where's she's based or what sort of company she works for

ManateeFair · 07/11/2023 12:14

It will depend on your employer. I think at most workplaces (unless you're paid by the hour) they would record sick leave in days and half-days, so if you leave at lunchtime it would be recorded as a half a day sick.

Where I work, they actually record all kinds of leave in hours rather than days (no idea why, as that isn't actually how they pay us, but anyway). For sick leave, it's the number of incidences, not the total number of hours, that would flag up a concern on the system and potentially trigger an occupational health conversation or something. So someone who took one full eight-hour day off sick in a month wouldn't cause concern, but someone who went home two hours early on four separate days through illness would probably have to go through a sickness management process.

AgnesX · 07/11/2023 12:17

VisionsOfSplendour · 07/11/2023 12:12

I know that but the OP says she's used sick days which suggests an allocation, she hasn't said where's she's based or what sort of company she works for

I took it to mean that she took days as sick. You get an allocation in some US companies because they're too tight to offer decent PTO

twostraws · 07/11/2023 12:20

AgnesX · 07/11/2023 12:17

I took it to mean that she took days as sick. You get an allocation in some US companies because they're too tight to offer decent PTO

Edited

You typically get an allocation in UK companies after which point, they don't offer paid leave and you get SSP only. So, first three days unpaid, then a pittance. Of course, some people have particularly stingy employers who don't offer any paid leave and it's all SSP.

There is also a limit, after which, your Bradford Score gets flagged (if it's a company that uses the Bradford Factor, not all do).

ManateeFair · 07/11/2023 12:22

AgnesX · 07/11/2023 12:03

In the UK you don't get an allocation of sick days. You're well enough to work, too sick to work(......) take annual or unpaid leave.

You don't get an allocation of sick days, but most companies do have a limit on the number of sick days for which you'll get full pay - eg had to take six weeks off after surgery once within the first six months of my employment, and I only got full pay for the first four weeks. For the rest of the year, I had to take annual leave when sick if I wanted to get paid.

Also lots of companies have a policy where certain HR procedures kick in when you've taken a certain number of days in a certain period - like a sickness management process or an occupational health interview or something. So while there's not an allocation of sick days alone, there might be an allocation of sick days that you can take without consequences.

AgnesX · 07/11/2023 12:26

twostraws · 07/11/2023 12:20

You typically get an allocation in UK companies after which point, they don't offer paid leave and you get SSP only. So, first three days unpaid, then a pittance. Of course, some people have particularly stingy employers who don't offer any paid leave and it's all SSP.

There is also a limit, after which, your Bradford Score gets flagged (if it's a company that uses the Bradford Factor, not all do).

I guess I've never worked for an organisation that has that in their T&C's...... It's always you're sick or not sick and they've all used the Bradford Index.

Rainbowshit · 07/11/2023 12:46

My company counts instances. So an afternoon off sick counts the same as several weeks off.

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