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To call for a general strike to force a snap general election?

128 replies

TheDCDeserveBetter · 05/11/2023 07:50

I think the state of our country is getting really serious, and I wonder - if we called a general strike, could we force a general election before Christmas?

For context, my GP surgery and local hospital is in struggling badly, so that my own health is now in big trouble.

My DS's secondary school is so short-staffed that my DS, who is super-smart, but has a dual diagnosis, has been having panic attacks and has dropped out. I'm not well enough to home school him, and there are not enough special school places to get him help.

We have had endless trouble with low grade criminal activity in volunteer organisations over the years and no help, because the police are under-funded. This means that our community involvement has dwindled to nothing and he has no social support outside school and our house.

We have enough money, but I have started posting our spare food on freecycle and I get desperate people coming to collect it and asking if we have anything else surplus. I know that at least one of my DS's friends is short of food.

Nothing much is being done about climate change.

Now they're making it illegal to give tents to homeless people?!

Can't we just force a general election now?

The conservatives could organise a snap general election easily enough if they thought it would get them a bigger majority,

I think they should do the morally right thing and call one now to get us a better government.

Posting this in trepidation, because I know AIBU is fierce. What do you think though?

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Fieldofbrokenpromises · 05/11/2023 13:53

Throwhandsupintheair · 05/11/2023 08:14

Even if we did hold a general strike, it’s highly unlikely we would get a pre-Christmas election.

Nevertheless, I 100% support your sentiment. I pray for a quick end to the dystopian nightmare we’re in with this twisted version of the Tory party.

You can see from Sunak’s fanboying of Elon Musk, at the AI Summit, what more they have in store for us. Musk told us that the future will be a dystopian one, where our children will have no jobs, and Sunak sat grinning.

He also plans to unveil more as to environment policies.

They must leave, and leave soon.

I bet Sunak wants a job from Musk, or at least some hook up to make them both even more incredibly wealthy.

Fieldofbrokenpromises · 05/11/2023 13:55

ElevenSeven · 05/11/2023 12:24

So no actual answer.

That is an answer. In fact it is an excellent idea.

Fieldofbrokenpromises · 05/11/2023 13:56

ElevenSeven · 05/11/2023 12:30

‘Stop bungs to their mates’ is a serious answer to the question of how Labour will fund changes to improve all decimated public services?

I’m out, this is pointless conversation. All these threads end the same way, the same posters hectoring everyone else.

Bye then, thanks for your contribution.

EasternStandard · 05/11/2023 13:59

Throwhandsupintheair · 05/11/2023 08:14

Even if we did hold a general strike, it’s highly unlikely we would get a pre-Christmas election.

Nevertheless, I 100% support your sentiment. I pray for a quick end to the dystopian nightmare we’re in with this twisted version of the Tory party.

You can see from Sunak’s fanboying of Elon Musk, at the AI Summit, what more they have in store for us. Musk told us that the future will be a dystopian one, where our children will have no jobs, and Sunak sat grinning.

He also plans to unveil more as to environment policies.

They must leave, and leave soon.

I doubt even Labour can stop the realities of AI.

Concerning if it’s just ignore it and AI will go away. It won’t.

NamechangeForthisquestion1 · 05/11/2023 14:04

I thought we would be having a GE in either Spring or Autumn 2024.. January 2025 feels like a lifetime away.

prayforthecottransfer · 05/11/2023 14:06

General election has to be by late January 2025. I can't see any world in which they will give up their leadership before absolutely necessary. They were voted in after all, a GE can't be forced early because some of the electorate don't like the government in power. Plenty do. How would that be in any way fair politics?

Fwiw, I'm not voting conservative.

Flapjacker48 · 05/11/2023 14:19

The way some people on here talk, it's like they think the Government will say "oh yes, lot's of people think we are crap, fair do's, let's have an election" - no Government has ever done this and Sunak won't either - he will hang on as long as possible unless some random event, or opposition implosion happens that makes an earlier election politically advantageous (unlikely, but the world is hardly a stable place)

Throwhandsupintheair · 05/11/2023 14:54

Fieldofbrokenpromises · 05/11/2023 13:53

I bet Sunak wants a job from Musk, or at least some hook up to make them both even more incredibly wealthy.

Of course. He’s seen Nick Clegg become a director of compliance at Meta and wants the same type of gig. He’ll move to America and fly from coast to coast chatting shit about tech. Neither him or Musk know diddly squat about AI.

TheDCDeserveBetter · 05/11/2023 14:56

@Throwhandsupintheair blimey that does sound likely. I wonder if even Sunak is now interviewing for jobs then?

Maybe if Musk offered him one, that would get us the election? Can we write to Elon Musk and tell him to get a wriggle on?

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EasternStandard · 05/11/2023 15:03

Throwhandsupintheair · 05/11/2023 14:54

Of course. He’s seen Nick Clegg become a director of compliance at Meta and wants the same type of gig. He’ll move to America and fly from coast to coast chatting shit about tech. Neither him or Musk know diddly squat about AI.

Who knows about it, do you?

Like it or not whoever is in will have to deal with it

Throwhandsupintheair · 05/11/2023 15:05

EasternStandard · 05/11/2023 13:59

I doubt even Labour can stop the realities of AI.

Concerning if it’s just ignore it and AI will go away. It won’t.

Nobody can ‘stop’ AI. It’s here. But those of us who understand the potential risks and benefits (I do due to my line of work) know neither Musk nor Sunak have a clue based on their comments and prepared briefings so far. People think because Musk was successful in one type of tech, he knows all. This is as ridiculous as thinking someone with a doctorate in ears, is also a specialist in the brain.

The Tories have ‘had enough of experts’. Hopefully, Labour will have enough sense to realise you need people who know what they’re talking about in your camp.

Firewerk · 05/11/2023 18:32

Throwhandsupintheair · 05/11/2023 15:05

Nobody can ‘stop’ AI. It’s here. But those of us who understand the potential risks and benefits (I do due to my line of work) know neither Musk nor Sunak have a clue based on their comments and prepared briefings so far. People think because Musk was successful in one type of tech, he knows all. This is as ridiculous as thinking someone with a doctorate in ears, is also a specialist in the brain.

The Tories have ‘had enough of experts’. Hopefully, Labour will have enough sense to realise you need people who know what they’re talking about in your camp.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

MoochingAbout · 05/11/2023 18:36

And vote for who, exactly? None of them will make anything better. Labour will likely make things worse!

BIossomtoes · 05/11/2023 18:44

MoochingAbout · 05/11/2023 18:36

And vote for who, exactly? None of them will make anything better. Labour will likely make things worse!

Impossible.

newnamethanks · 05/11/2023 18:58

You want the Conservatives to do the 'morally correct thing' OP? Grab yourself a look at today's Daily Mail which is headlining Nadine Dorries' foot-stamping expose of today' Tories. Drugs, Rape, Prostitutes all within the hallowed halls of HOC. Bozo has apparently, given her a hand to write it. Obviously they are all deeply ashamed and don't wish to be seen in public. Oh, no they're not, they're laughing their heads off at us, the idiots that allow them to stay there.😡

TheDCDeserveBetter · 05/11/2023 19:05

@newnamethanks fair point.

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cardibach · 05/11/2023 19:17

Tinkerbyebye · 05/11/2023 08:41

Waste of time. Strikes don’t work, just look at the rail strikes, no further forward.

and all it will do is make the country worse, take far longer to get back in shape and won’t solve the issue of your gp surgery

as to changing governments, they are all as bad as each other

Industrial action by the RMT has ensured the retention of ticket offices.
and no, they aren’t all the same. Go home to Tory HQ, nobody believes you.

cardibach · 05/11/2023 19:39

jlpth · 05/11/2023 11:23

Things have been in this state for several years now.

I didn't vote at the last GE because the options were monstrous.

I don't think that any party can solve this.

Politics is evil.

The NHS particularly needs a divorce from politics and a mega overhaul. I think the backlog and problems are too severe to be fixed though.

YABU to think a general strike and GE will fix this shitshow. We've been in the shitshow for years. The problems are hideous. I would emigrate if I could.

The years we’ve been in this shit show roughly corresponds d to the years since the Tories got in. Stop the ‘all the same’ nonsense. It’s not true.

TheDCDeserveBetter · 05/11/2023 19:40

I didn't really mean a public sector strike. I meant a mumsnet strike. I didn't think it through very well tbh.

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Elvanseshortage · 05/11/2023 19:43

@Vikina
If we want better public services we need to accept that we need to pay more

er, yes I think most people do accept that?

VioletLillyRoseDaisyIrisJasmineDahlia · 05/11/2023 19:53

Yes. I want a new government
NOW. .

VioletLillyRoseDaisyIrisJasmineDahlia · 05/11/2023 19:53

Newrumpus · 05/11/2023 08:03

I’m not sure how it would help

Really?

Vikina · 05/11/2023 20:00

Elvanseshortage · 05/11/2023 19:43

@Vikina
If we want better public services we need to accept that we need to pay more

er, yes I think most people do accept that?

I'm not sure everyone does. I think some people think a new government will suddenly be able to change things without financial consequences to us all.

CLCB07 · 05/11/2023 20:10

He's been pretty strong despite activists targeting him.

CLCB07 · 05/11/2023 20:11

How?