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AIBU?

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clarebear111 · 03/11/2023 15:54

AIBU to think that if you are a dreadful person, who does dreadful things, there should be consequences?

I am really struggling with the way my family and I have been treated by some long standing (now ex) family friends and some business associates of theirs. I won't go into details, but they have behaved utterly appallingly, have lied through their teeth to the extent we have had to take legal action, and yet there seem to be no meaningful consequences for them. The court process is so painfully slow that it's taken years to even get to that point, and in the meantime my family and I have been suffering. Essentially, they told us they would do something and didn't, to our detriment. They have now been ordered to do this by the court by the middle of December, but I'm not holding my breath and fully expect to have to go back to court to enforce the order in the new year.

It really gets to me that they have been able to behave in this way, and suffer no consequences at all.

Sorry for the ramble, AIBU to think that there should be consequences for bad behaviour, perhaps a form of karma?

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ComtesseDeSpair · 03/11/2023 16:00

If karma existed, surely the logical extension would be to conclude that perhaps the way you’ve been treated and the pain you’ve had to endure is your karma from bad things you’ve done previously, either in this life or one before? People always take a very one sided view when they talk about karma, which ignores this.

It sucks that the legal process isn’t working as it should and you don’t feel you’ve seen justice. I doubt the people in question are particularly happy with their lot in life: happy, satisfied people don’t try to make other people’s lives miserable.

fedupandstuck · 03/11/2023 16:02

I think what you're after is justice rather than karma/retribution. The issue in your case is that the implementation of justice is slow, expensive and a suitable outcome is not guaranteed. Or perhaps even likely. That definitely sucks, and it would be great if both criminal and civil legal cases could be streamlined/modernised/simplified/made more accessible.

Karma just isn't possible, no matter how much you might want it to be.

Theunamedcat · 03/11/2023 16:12

Karma is bullshit sadly my ex is a dangerous person he seems to attract money and truly stupid people who enable him his child maintenance has just been reduced by two thirds so less than £50 a month for two children despite being in a well earning job and having arrears because he quits his job several times a year 🙄 meaning his overall average is low so he can earn £1000 a month and just bung the kids £50 then he will "change" jobs renewal time and earn less again as soon as its set up for 12 months his earnings goes up again

He gets away with this and many (many) arrests for violence against woman and children repeatedly

I'm getting on with my life maybe it will catch up with him in the next life

UnDruidlyWords · 03/11/2023 17:12

perhaps the way you’ve been treated and the pain you’ve had to endure is your karma from bad things you’ve done previously, either in this life or one before?

That's pretty much how I see it. When bad things happen, it can help to see it as, not related to the other person's karma, but you paying off your own karma. The one who did you wrong will get to pay off their karma in due time.

clarebear111 · 03/11/2023 18:00

Thanks all, I think that @fedupandstuck has got it right and what I am actually after is justice, or at least some form of consequence.

Sigh.

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