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AIBU about lack of couple time vs spending time with the in laws?

9 replies

Lilandme · 03/11/2023 15:07

DF and I have been together around 5 years. I’m currently struggling as we have reached the point where we don’t do anything as a couple. When I say “reached the stage” I’m talking like 2-3 years now.

We don’t have a huge amount of money, but then I’m not really the type to splash the cash on silly things/build up credit card debt for “wants”. I’d be happy if we went for a nice walk somewhere, or went to the cinema. Just basic things, I’m not asking for wining and dining at posh restaurants.

DF knows I feel this has gone stale and that the effort isn’t there any more. He knows because I’ve tried to have multiple diplomatic discussions with him, where he usually acknowledges that I have a point, says sorry, describes how more effort will be made etc. But then he doesn’t. If I try and arrange things, he will do them and we’ll have a nice time, but it’s having the entire burden of responsibility on me to arrange things (on top of the usual mental load we often have as the female partner) that adds to my irritation. If I don’t arrange, it doesn’t happen. One of my family members spotted we hadn’t been able to have a break away or anything for a long time and kindly gave him some money to arrange a weekend away for us around my birthday. The whole time it was being built up to me as “when we go away for your birthday” and “I’m making plans” etc, only to not mention it at all when it came to my birthday. He ended up overthinking it to the extent he didn’t book anything at all, so I asked him to return the money a month later as it was clear nothing was going to happen and it felt rude to keep it when it hadn’t been used for the intended purpose and would have been swallowed up on bills if it’d stayed in the bank account.

The other part to this story is that his family live elsewhere in the country (We’re North, one of his parents is in the South, one in Wales). So obvs any time we go to see his parents and other family, it’s a bit more planning than just popping round for a brew. However, the parents (long separated and married to other people) both seem to be in the habit of announcing visits on XYZ date (which could be weeks or months in advance, but there’s no consideration as to whether either of us have a shift or any plans, it’s just announced), or they want us in attendance at every birthday, Christmas or random event. When this happens, DF becomes a different person: proactive with arrangements, suggesting I book days off work to accommodate them, change arrangements with childcare plans etc etc. When they say jump, he asks how high we should do it and any plans already made for the aforementioned dates are shelved in favour of seeing his family.

The issue I have with this is I work a stressful job (won’t disclose as want to keep anon in a new account, but imagine one of the more stressful/traumatic/gory types of job you can do), I also have DD who is 10, who I share 50/50 custody and responsibility with Ex partner. My days off are precious to me as I often have to work long and unsociable shifts due to the nature of my career, as well as being a mum. I am feeling utterly exhausted and like I’m being taken for a fool. I am desperate for a break or some quality time just doing basic couple things, but he can’t seem to organise himself to make it a reality, even when provided with all the tools to do so. Why then, when his family require us somewhere, is he suddenly able to make arrangements and drag me around the country?? These visits have essentially become our date nights, because there’s nothing else.

Im at my wits end. I feel taken for granted and as if I’m just there to roll out for family occasions/opening of crisp packets. I have tried over and over to talk about this, but a “sorry” just happens to end the discussion, then we continue as was.

Sorry it’s long, but AIBU to expect a good balance of time for ourselves as a couple, and for him to sometimes take the lead in these plans? AIBU to be frustrated that he cannot make any arrangements, despite being provided with all the tools and funds to do so? AIBU to expect him to stand up to his family and say we will be happy to see them but they cannot just announce when they want us there without consultation over arrangements/dates? AIBU to expect more from this relationship? I honestly feel I’ve communicated with him to death now over this and I’m kinda done.

OP posts:
billy1966 · 03/11/2023 15:22

Yanbu.

You are being taken for granted by him and a bit of a mug.

I wouldn't be using my precious time off to be visiting the family of such a selfish man.

Why are you with him?

Do you share children?

If not, dump him.

Mumsanetta · 03/11/2023 15:29

YANBU at all. We put time and effort into the things we care about. It’s why some teenagers are pumped and excited about organising nights out with friends but less enthusiastic or even bothered about seeing elderly grandparents. In your case, your DF is very clearly telling you where his priorities lie - he is more than capable of organising and shifting plans to suit family meet ups but can’t be bothered to arrange a date night with you, even when someone else is paying. It’s not that he can’t, he just doesn’t want to. Do yourself a favour and listen to what his actions are telling you.

Tinkerbyebye · 03/11/2023 15:31

Stop doing anything with his family when they visits,

him;can you book some time off

you: no my days off are precious and I have other things to do, your family you entertain, when you decide to or again e something for us, as you can do for your parents i will look to get time off

Stop making an effort for birthday and Christmas, if he can’t be bothered

treat him as he treats you

but if it is something that’s a deal breaker then you need to start looking to leave

bluebeck · 03/11/2023 15:48

YANBU

All relationships come to an end one way or another, and it seems this one has run its course.

Caroparo52 · 03/11/2023 15:54

Treat the cause not the symptoms.....sadly he's not that into you... hence he can't be bothered to please you.
Time to say goodbye.

Lilandme · 03/11/2023 16:10

Thank you all for replying. I honestly feel so alone and do appreciate the time you’ve all taken.

In answer to the bits above:

  • DF and I have no children together. I have the one DD with my ex and have chosen not to have more. DF does help significantly with childcare to allow me to work (my day shifts are 12hrs plus, starting at 6am so school runs and any wrap around childcare are out). I work 2 shifts a week with extra as OT on my/our terms.
  • DF and I own a house together.
  • I’ve had a difficult break up years back with the ex (DD’s father) so I know how horrific another break up will be, financially, home life etc) hence maybe why I’ve stayed and tried to sort this rather than just saying ta da.

In my heart I know he won’t change. Or if he does, the small changes are happening so slowly that I feel it would be decades before anything sinks in as the new norm. What the kicker is is that his ex was allll over social media all the time. Horses for courses, but I knew them when they were together (from work and we got together a few years after they/me and my ex had split). During her social media-ing, there was constant posts of them out having meals, dates etc. I’ve come to the conclusion that this must have been entirely organised by her to have this level of social life. I’ve broached the subject and asked him to be honest to himself over whether he had this level of social life because it was all arranged for him. He states no, he made some of the plans. I strongly suspect this isn’t the case, but if it is, why is he now unable to arrange things for us? He so day despised his ex for the last years of their relationship due to her controlling nature. But was still able to make date nights for someone he “hated” vs him telling me “I mean the world” to him, he loves me “more than anything” etc. Clearly I don’t mean that much.

I don’t recognise myself any more. I have eye bags big enough to go camping in, enough work related PTSD to write a novel, and I’m just burned out. The job isn’t the issue because I honestly love it and have worked hard to get my career where it is, but I have to make extra allowance to be kind to myself and have self care or dealing with that much hideous trauma will eat you if you’re not careful.

I think I know what I need to do. This won’t change. I just needed to know I wasn’t being a prick tbh for expecting more.

OP posts:
TheCatterall · 03/11/2023 18:46

Massive squishes @Lilandme - in the meantime before final decisions are made - is it worth just building a life for yourself socially, refusing/declining to be involved in in law visits and let him crack in with all that and pretty much living as two people who roomshare?

I say this as having a social outlet is vital to many of us and so often it begins and ends with our partners - and if they can’t provide what we need emotionally then we need to ensure the need is met elsewhere.

Lilandme · 03/11/2023 21:32

@TheCatterall That’s great advice actually, thank you. I have my people, but it’s difficult at times to socialise due to all the other commitments. But instead of going to the next birthday thing I’m being asked to show up to halfway across the country, I’m going to do something for me instead and see friends x

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OldestSister · 03/11/2023 21:59

Tbh OP, if DD is 10 then she isn't going to.need childcare for much longer, and surely you'll need to spend your holiday or non-working time with her if she's with you, not trotting around the country seeing people you hardly know.

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