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AIBU?

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To want some independence

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midcenturymuse · 30/10/2023 00:28

I see my family every couples of weeks in various combinations of parents/siblings/extended family (BILs, SIL etc), with some text communication inbetween. They are good, decent people. Very kind and we're all very pleasant to one another etc. Rarely any major fallings out. I know I'm very lucky to have them.

But I absolutely despise the person these family meet-ups seem to turn me into.

My parents especially are quite anxious people and get very invested. I can't ever have a light-hearted moan or mention any kind of mundane life-challenge that I might be encountering without them wringing their hands, trying to get involved, taking over etc... I then have to spend a ridiculous amount of time reassuring them that everything is fine and calming them down. If I try to avoid this by not mentioning anything personal going on in my life or only talking about positive things, I am accused of blocking them out.

I am the youngest in my family with four siblings and whenever we have large get togethers we quickly assume our traditional roles of oldest and youngest child etc. My opinion is rarely taken seriously as they still see me as the baby of the family who doesn't know anything, despite me having a very responsible job which requires a lot of training and qualifications. I am not trusted with anything important and no one listens to any advice or input I might try to offer if they ask for help. On the other hand I am constantly being told what I should and shouldn't do, regardless of whether I ask for advice. I'm also expected to do all the running around because everyone else has at least one child each, and so I do all the travelling to visit them even though I work long hours commuting into London and have my own stuff going on. No one ever visits me.

Family meet-ups are chaotic and noisy and I find them quite overwhelming. You literally have to shout to be heard and I inevitably leave feeling absolutely shit about myself - overstimulated, exhausted, socially anxious and guilty because I worry I've said something clumsy or stupid by mistake and offended someone, because I've allowed myself to get carried away with the raucousness of the event. It's hard to explain but because everyone is so loud you end up having to amplify your personality in order to get a word in, which makes me feel obnoxious. Sitting calmly isn't really an option unless you want endless concerned looks and "what's wrong?''s.

Because I'm still treated like a child, I struggle to have confidence in my own autonomy as an adult. I often feel like I "can't" do something because it will upset someone or I don't have permission. I don't trust my own decisions. There are things I would love to do as an adult such as move to another part of the country that I'm afraid to do because I worry it will upset my family.

It's all becoming a bit much and I feel like I need a circuit-breaker of some kind. I need to find some way to step outside these behavioural patterns and get some distance so I can think clearly and learn what I need to do to start showing up as the grown woman I am, not the child my family sees me as.

Not sure what my AIBU is, but I suppose I'm just wondering if anyone out there knows how I feel and might show some solidarity. I love my family and I don't want to lose them, but I worry the family dynamics are stopping me from fully evolving and maturing.

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GrumpyOldCrone · 30/10/2023 01:22

YANBU! Over-involved and anxious family members are hard work. Moving away might be a very good thing for you. Could you work overseas for a while? It would give you a chance to develop your confidence outside the claustrophobia of your family.

In the meantime, you could introduce some judicious eye-rolling. If family members are offended by that, let them be offended. It’s ok for them to feel uncomfortable for a change. It’s not your job to manage their feelings.

cheeseandketchupsandwich · 30/10/2023 03:01

First post nailed it. It's not your job to manage their feelings.

The move away sounds like a great idea. If it's what you want then go for it.

When you get to the inevitable end, what's going to make you happier? Looking back on your life knowing you did what made YOU happy, or regretting the things you missed because you were too busy trying to make others happy (who will never be happy, it sounds like).

j1j · 30/10/2023 04:07

@midcenturymuse i could have written this. I struggle with it so much. Love my family but I am an entirely different person around them as I’m automatically put into the childhood boxes we were in growing up. It makes me feel angry, frustrated, sad, and when I leave, even if I’ve had a nice time, I feel this sense of underlying stress and anxiety that takes a day or so to fade. My family is also chaotic, lots of money so always new things and nice food etc which I find makes it worse… it’s all very full on and lots of speaking over each other or shouting. But… there’s lots of love too. I don’t know what the answer is as I am drained after interaction with them and they like to have regular contact. I also don’t tell them things much these days as like you say, it just creates hysteria and there’s no actual support. That part is hard as I then feel I can’t be authentic around them. How old are you OP? If you want to say. I get it, no answers but solidarity.

SocksOfMagic · 30/10/2023 04:28

in your shoes I’d stop attending for a month or two to have a break. Be honest say you’re finding the meet ups overwhelming and you’re feeling frustrated at being treated like a child when you’re an equal adult who doesn’t require direction. When you’re ready, invite them to yours, stating you’ve been commuting long hours into London so would like the get together at yours. Apply for jobs in areas you’d like to live in, at least apply and research lifestyles (housing costs, gym, clubs), visit and see how you feel about going.

SocksOfMagic · 30/10/2023 04:31

Think about what will make you happy, content, balanced

OrderOfTheKookaburra · 30/10/2023 06:19

Honestly? You need time and space away from them.

Look for a job that would involve an overseas posting or has lots of travel or something. Just get away from them.

This dynamic doesn't change but your ability to deal with it will. I have the same situation and moved away for quite a few years. They still treat me like the baby go the family who doesn't know anything now that I'm back but they honestly don't see it. I just ignore them now and they are slowly seeing that I'm not as available for them.

ElleCapitaine · 30/10/2023 06:29

You said there are various combinations so presumably not everyone turns up all the time? Can you reduce your visits to monthly and stay for only a set period of time - e.g. ‘I need to leave by 4pm as I’m going out this evening’. Would it be possible to see them in smaller groups or do you have a particularly close sibling you could sit with and focus on. My mum is like your parents so I don’t tell her anything - I talk to her about recipes or ideas for holidays or hairdos rather than anything that might vex her.

midcenturymuse · 30/10/2023 10:06

@j1j Yes those feelings of sadness and frustration really resonate. It's like I don't recognise myself when I'm around them.

I worry that cutting them off in order to have a time-out feels unnecessarily cruel. They are lovely people who wouldn't intentionally upset me...they just don't see it. I don't know. Perhaps a step back, or taking a backseat at the meet-ups and just resigning myself to dealing with all the concerned looks and questions and letting them figure it out on their own...

I'm trying to take baby-steps to start making bigger decisions on my own. I'm curious to know if expanding my horizons in other ways (getting a scuba-diving license, as a random example) will help me feel like I'm no longer living in this child-role.

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