Recruiters?

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This wrecks my head and just wondering if anyone understands it, or if anyone here is a recruiter who can explain how this ever gets positive results?

I'm not actively searching for a new job but often get contacted by recruiters about roles that sound interesting and that I would consider if I have more details. I would move but only for the right opportunity.

I typically ask for the job specification and the salary range so as not to waste their time or mine.

(In the past, I took it at face value based on the job title and two interviews later discovered the salary was lower than my current one)

The vast majority refuse to provide the job spec and almost all won't provide the salary range.

They just want to link you up for immediate interview or arrange a meeting with such and such.

I've just had a recruiter (from a very large global company, not an outsourced recruiter) give out to me and telling me "that's not how it works. We want to meet with you and discuss options before we can discuss any of that. We really want you on board, how soon can we arrange the interview".

Even when I tried to explain that an interview without knowing what I'm interviewing for would be a waste of everyone's time. All she was willing to give me was a convoluted job title that means very little.

I was then told, almost shouted at "but we came looking for you. We know you would be a really good fit. Does that not mean anything to you?!"

I feel for recruiters they have a tough job but the not giving salary details bugs me.

Salary is so important a VP is c suite in one company and can be a 1st line manager in another. Job roles have no standard so salary is how the potential employee knows if it’s the right level.

This recruiter sounds a bit arrogant like you should be thrilled to even be contacted by them! If it’s Google…. run! Unless of course you wish to wait months.

Well, firstly she sounds awful.

But secondly there isn’t usually one specific role. While they won’t admit it, they just want to have you in their “candidate pool” so they can send over your (and several others’) cvs at short notice when roles come up.

Unless you are being specifically headhunted, which usually only happens at the top end of the market and involves lunches.

I mean, that's not accurate at all.

There is a big movement about this on LI at the moment with many recruiters saying exactly the same as you OP. Often they aren't given the range from the employer, in which case I'd swerve anyway. It means the employer is working with multiple recruiters and hasn't specced the job correctly

The above is incorrect, because I am most certainly not senior, and I was hunting recently and refused to entertain any conversation without specifics about job roles, and every recruiter I spoke with had a number of specific roles they were happy to discuss.

If you're not in a defined industry, the above will be true however.

Sure, I’ve only got 25 years experience of this, so what would I know 😂

My partners got to final stage a few times and had to bin off the job as the salary was about half of what he wanted and they kept stringing him along since they won’t admit the salary. Play hard ball. No salary no apply no commission.

@WinchSparkle80 not google or any of the newer ones. A long term well established global company.

@fishfingersandchipsagain I agree, at the start it sounded like specifically head hunting and wanted me to meet with X and Y.

It started as lunch, then an informal meeting, and then it was an interview so my level of interest was dropping the more she spoke.

@JustFrustrated She was the Head of the company's Europe recruitment rather than an external recruiter so it wasn't as if she wouldn't have detail to share or even know of there were a few roles.

It was all very bizarre. It is Friday afternoon and she seemed kind of under pressure, like she was supposed to have contacted me sooner or something.

I’ve deleted my LinkedIn because I am sick of recruiters, normally new grads who know nothing about my industry and send me wholly inappropriate roles. I had one that got my phone number from somewhere, wanted to put me forward for a job on the other side of the country earning half of what I do, called about 3 times and shouted at me when I said no please stop calling me.

I only use a specific recruiter who specialises in my industry, they’ve been doing it for years and is always upfront about salary etc. I’ve earned them a lot of commission and they’ve got me some great roles.