To think this is unacceptable from a university

[curaçao]

My dd us in the first year of a degree and every couple of weeks will have a timwtable clash.She us not doing a joint honours of 2 random subjects, but some of her modules will be with people from other courses.
It makes me really annoyed when she is paying so much and forced to have to miss lectures fairly regularly.
This is in a uni which is listed in the uk top 5

Lectures aren’t bloody optional. At DSs university if you miss a certain percentage then you’re out

Like nearly everything about universities, this varies from place to place.

Like nearly everything about universities, this varies from place to place.

I don't know a single university that doesn't take attendance monitoring seriously.

Most lectures at Oxbridge are completely optional. If the student can learn the material better from a book, so be it.

Most lectures at Oxbridge are completely optional. If the student can learn the material better from a book, so be it.

But they'll still take attendance monitoring seriously.
Oxbridge is not representative of the whole sector and have their own way of doing things.

Every university I have worked at or with has had a formal attendance monitoring system which includes attendance at lectures.

Many universities only monitor attendance in seminars/tutorials, not for lectures. If you have an undergraduate lecture class of 250 people, it's not very practical to check attendance. We don't have any electrical 'swipe in' attendance at ours, although I've heard of these elsewhere - honestly there are always large crowds waiting outside the lecture theatre for the previous lecture to finish; I think if they implemented an attendance checking for lectures, it would really be a nightmare. If attendance looks thin on the ground, there's a general email sent around to remind people to attend lectures.

Are they all mandatory courses? When I was in first year we had to have 8 contact hours a week for a particular module and they got us all in a room to try and get it sorted. An optional module I really wanted to do clashed and I was told to drop that.

Fair enough. But some of the universities you haven't worked at or with, don't.

Depending on the lecturer the book could now be out of date, the lecturer may not have published a book, the book may not be relevant to the subject of the lecture.

So suggesting students can skip lectures and read the book is just plain silly.

Universities should not be offering courses if they are not capable of actually delivering the core modules for those courses. Failing to avoid basic timetable clashes for core modules is incompetent.

This is a nonsense.

I was last in not long ago and have several friends in academia as well as family attending currently.

It’s done on computer after you log in to your Uni account and it is up to you the student to sort out yourself (with guidance from video/webpage/helpline/school if there is an issue)

In both Russell group Unis I went to you were auto enrolled to compulsory modules then added further modules on according to personal preference.

Courses are capped due to the size of lecture theatre. And to ensure uptake across what is offered.

A few times I enrolled there were clashes and I couldn’t complete enrolment without fixing the issue. This is my experience. Yours may differ depending on where you go.

Are they electives? Ds is in 2nd year and both years his choice of elective modules have been limited by timetabling and he had to choose carefully and it was his responsibility to make sure they didnt clash.

The electives are open to all students across the faculty so there will always be ones that clash for someone.

My child is currently at uni and chooses his timetable from available slots. Not to say they all work like that. He's always on the first day to get the best timetable to minimise the number of days he has to go in.

This happened to DD at Warwick, with clashing timetabling for lectures for her joint honours degree. It was a real pain for her and she would often have to miss the end of one lecture to get to another one at the other end of the campus.

Neither lying or 'messed up'
She us studying integrated masters in natural sciences where you need ti choose 2 out of about 5 streams.She is doing biochemistry and pharmacology, which is a very popular combination.All modules are compulsory.

They are not kids!

@curaçao are there any other students in the same boat? If they got together and approached the course leader they might make some headway.

I totally sympathise. My DD had this the whole way through her degree. Not a joint honours but a course which spanned two science schools in the uni. She would end up having lectures where she was the only person in the lecture theatre.

What? Who is that directed at?