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Britney Spear's book

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Mooshamoo · 24/10/2023 11:28

Her autobiography is out today. Did anyone read it. Honestly it's shocking.

What they put her through under the conservatorship. It's really awful. It's nearly unbelievable.

She wasn't allowed to eat what she wanted. She wasn't allowed to see her children.

Her father would lock her up in psychiatric centres if she disagreed with him .

Really awful.

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Mooshamoo · 24/10/2023 22:40

topnoddy · 24/10/2023 22:17

She's clearly a fruit loop at the moment and looks like she needs help
Too many people making money out of her though , she's just a product and has been since a very young age

It all helps sell that there book though !

With respect, I don't think it's ok to call people who are mentally unwell "fruit loops".

A lot of people are mentally unwell at different stages in their lives.

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YellowBrickRoadWithPotholes · 25/10/2023 06:33

Lots of misogyny around here.

i can’t think of a single male talent/celeb treated this way, with his father locking him up. Seems acceptable for a woman though.
Women, know your place.

YellowBrickRoadWithPotholes · 25/10/2023 06:36

And this is also all about money and greed.
If she was struggling on benefits with poor mental health and no assets, she’d have had more freedom. It’s sickening.

ElevenSeven · 25/10/2023 06:37

How did Justin ‘make her’ have an abortion?

She can say what he wants but she went along with it.

SweetFemaleAttitude · 25/10/2023 06:41

This thread is weird. The amount of times posters have written the phrase 'mentally unwell', is freaky.

Almost brain washing.

There is almost a vitriol towards Britney Spears that I am finding very odd.

highdaysandholudays · 25/10/2023 06:48

There are so many posts on here that reek of such inherent misogyny.

I watched a short clip of an interview with her on an American tv show recently where a middle aged man said "everyone's talking about them". And she didn't know what he meant. She was laughing and being charming. And he said "your breasts". The audience were laughing. I think she must have been about 18 at the time. Hit me baby is an incredible pop song but the video is a travesty. She was set up from a very young age to be subservient. Her "mental illness" is likely a trauma response from years of being abused.

I think she's incredible. We've only seen a glimpse of the talent she has. I loved the episodes of How I met your Mother with her in them. She's such a fantastic comic actress and reminded me so much of Marilyn Monroe in her style.

Guavafish1 · 25/10/2023 06:52

She had an acute episode before starting the conservation. At the time I think it was the right decision.

However it has lasted far too long and her family and others abused their position.

She is still vulnerable to abuse. The book may also be form of financial abuse, but I don't know.

There many people who have a mental health disorders that work or in positions/importances/power/media/government.

JT is a loser. He cheated on his current wife.

VisaWoes · 25/10/2023 06:55

YellowBrickRoadWithPotholes · 25/10/2023 06:33

Lots of misogyny around here.

i can’t think of a single male talent/celeb treated this way, with his father locking him up. Seems acceptable for a woman though.
Women, know your place.

Yes. Look at Kayne still trotting about the place. If anyone needs a conservatorship it’s him.

Mystro202 · 25/10/2023 07:36

Going off topic a bit but I watched some of JT's movie "Reptile" last night and tbh I wouldn't look twice at him. He is not one bit attractive to me. Can't understand all the fuss about him and the fact that he seems to think he's God's gift to women.

itsmyp4rty · 25/10/2023 07:40

highdaysandholudays · 25/10/2023 06:48

There are so many posts on here that reek of such inherent misogyny.

I watched a short clip of an interview with her on an American tv show recently where a middle aged man said "everyone's talking about them". And she didn't know what he meant. She was laughing and being charming. And he said "your breasts". The audience were laughing. I think she must have been about 18 at the time. Hit me baby is an incredible pop song but the video is a travesty. She was set up from a very young age to be subservient. Her "mental illness" is likely a trauma response from years of being abused.

I think she's incredible. We've only seen a glimpse of the talent she has. I loved the episodes of How I met your Mother with her in them. She's such a fantastic comic actress and reminded me so much of Marilyn Monroe in her style.

The way she was treated like a piece of meat was disgusting, especially as she was barely more than a child. I did read however that having the video for Hit me filmed in a school in the style of Grease was all Britney's idea and that she often made a lot more decisions than people realised.

nottaotter · 25/10/2023 07:52

@Mooshamoo I agree with what you are saying . I remember trying to explain to someone years ago that anyone who is broke is rarely under a conservatorship, even the judge who finally ended it said something like this.

How come she was mentally unwell and had to be forced to take lithium and had custody of her kids taken yet she was deemed mentally well enough to do a Las Vegas residency and be worked extremely hard.

Court documents proved a lot of what she has said in her book.

There is one scene in the 'free Britney' documentary where her father and about 6 other people (manager etc) are sitting round a table and talking about her like she is an object, its her birthday coming up they are discussing her schedule. A woman queries what she will be doing on her birthday, her father laughs scornfully and says working obviously, they all snigger and it's really indicative of the whole set up.

SaturdayGiraffe · 25/10/2023 07:57

The book would have been throughly checked by lawyers to prevent her father or others from suing.
Therefore it’s safe to conclude that the events detailed inside can be corroborated.
I think the enforced IUD shows how far her father went.

PersephonePomegranate23 · 25/10/2023 08:06

Blimey, no-one is defending her father, all posts agree he was not the right person to have any sort of control over her, but that doesn't negate the fact that she is not a reliable source and is mentally unwell.

In her view, everything is someone else's fault.

SpareHeirOverThere · 25/10/2023 08:22

Britney is mentally unstable. But what happened to her was horrific and it happened because she is a woman.

Protecting her assets? From whom? Millions of people gamble away the family home, hand over their life savings to scammers or MLM schemes, get swept up in cults, fall into addiction or depression - these people do not have conservators appointed, their money controlled, their freedom to marry or have children curtailed.

Kanye is out there walking around, unfiltered. Free to donate every dollar he ever earned to Trump, if he so wishes, or spend the lot on a run for president.

She made that money. It's hers to 'waste'. She was still making money under the conservatorship. She's making more right now. She's not homeless or broke.

As to the facts about the consevatorship - there was a court case. The truth of her version was accepted by a judge.

User767463 · 25/10/2023 08:25

ElevenSeven · 25/10/2023 06:37

How did Justin ‘make her’ have an abortion?

She can say what he wants but she went along with it.

This is my issue with all the headlines and social media fallout as well. The song Everytime is being played up and down the charts again. It's beautifully written and haunting to hear once you know the context.

HOWEVER, where does this put abortions and women's right to choose? The current narrative has painted a medical abortion as the ultimate tragedy which destroyed a woman's life, caused severe MH problems, having more kids with an unsuitable man, a conservatorship and vilifying the man who "forced" her to get one. I don't disagree that Timberlake is a trash human being, but anyone can objectively see that 19 is not the ideal time to have a baby if your career is at its peak. But now so many girls are listening to the lyrics of the song and believing that once you have an abortion, that baby should and must haunt you for the rest of your life. It falls perfectly into the agenda of so many groups.

People also seem to forget that she had many extremely successful years after the abortion. By her own admission, the tour of 2001 was her favourite and anyone who lived through the Britney era knows that she wasn't faking the power and energy on stage. Her MH started to decline after having a baby (as it does with many women). There doesn't seem to be any mention of post partum depression or even psychosis which is far more common and far more likely given the timeframe. However everyone is happen to pin her depression on one abortion and vilify Justin Timberlake for it.

koalaknickers · 25/10/2023 08:35

She wasn't allowed to eat the food she wanted.
She wasn't allowed to access her own money.
She wasn't allowed to drive a car.
She wasn't allowed to use the contraception she wanted.

I haven't read the book so not claiming that anything I am about to say is in any way accurate. How could I possibly know? But what I do know from being in a family of addicts/mental illness some of them do say stuff like the above. It has a ring of truth but I know the rest of the story. My brother especially rewrites history and paints himself as a victim, but also expects us to keep cleaning up his messes.

She wasn't allowed to eat the food she wanted.

Medical issue perhaps? Told she had to cut down on salt for instance for blood pressure reasons? Some foods mess with medications - grapefruit and heart meds for instance.

She wasn't allowed to access her own money.

By access, did she mean not allowed to take out vast sums of money to do something reckless with? One of my siblings got a payout after an accident partly caused by her drinking which left her injured. I wish one of us could have helped her manage it. She had to do it her way, with the result every penny has gone on drink and drugs and all the users who were helping her spend it are nowhere to be seen.

She wasn't allowed to drive a car.

This may have been to protect her from causing an accident? My sibling bemoans the fact she can no longer drive. What she omits to mention is she parked her car up a tree in a suburban street when blind drunk and had her licence removed.

She wasn't allowed to use the contraception she wanted.

By whom? I'd like more detail on this. There are many reasons why you may not be able to use a certain contraception. Smokers are discouraged from using the Pill for instance. I have a friend with a raised BMI who also wasn't allowed to use the combined Pill. She was pretty pissed off with the doctor, but he was looking out for her.

koalaknickers · 25/10/2023 08:38

I think the enforced IUD shows how far her father went.

I'm sorry I didn't see this before I posted. That is wrong. Perhaps she was in danger of getting pregnant because of carelessness with contraception, but that is her choice or should be.

koalaknickers · 25/10/2023 08:43

On my sibling who got the payout again - she complains bitterly about the appointments people are "making" her go to. These are appointments to look after her legs so she doesn't lose them to gangrene. She isn't looking after herself properly. She always attends the appointments with a carer and she couldn't be FORCED to I don't think, but she does love to complain and feel hard done by that "bossy" doctors are interfering with her life.

It's really hard to know how to help her.

Worddance · 25/10/2023 08:45

I don't think she's well right now but also think the conservatorship should never have happened - it was about getting the most money possible out of a sick woman which is as fucked up as you say. If she needed such management she was not well enough to work.

I think she's basically a sweet person.

Gerrataere · 25/10/2023 09:00

I agree with a couple of previous posters. She is obviously mentally unwell, she is also obviously a victim of abuse at the hands of her father/family. She has been used and abused by everyone in her life - there was an episode of South Park many many years ago about her and it was evident then how they saw how she and other young women in her position had been abused and left to struggle by everyone around them.

KitBumbleB · 25/10/2023 09:17

Well reading this thread no wonder so many men get away with abusing women.

"She's mentally unwell, don't believe what she says*
*Take it with a pinch of salt she's crazy"
"She's a fruitloop can't trust her"
"Can't trust what she says shes nuts"

Jbrown76 · 25/10/2023 09:39

She wasn't allowed dessert because her father said she was fat and her food was controlled so she didn't put on weight...

Locutus2000 · 25/10/2023 09:47

Victim blaming based on pure speculation isn't the best look.

Crossaintqueen · 25/10/2023 09:49

@koalaknickers I’ve read the book so I will reply.

She wasn't allowed to eat the food she wanted

Nothing to do with her medication. She was put on a diet because her father told her she was too fat and an “embarrassment”. She asked if she could please have fries, or a dessert. She was told no and was kept on a strict diet of chicken and vegetables for almost two years to get her body back into shape whilst her family ate what they wanted and drank alcohol.

She wasn't allowed to access her own money.

She had an allowance of 2k per week. She once wanted to take all her dancers and crew members to a nice restaurant and pick up the tab but she didn’t have enough “allowance” left to cover it so she couldn’t. Meanwhile her father forced her to work against her will and paid himself more than he paid her:

”conservatorships, called guardianships, are usually reserved for people with no mental capacity, people who can’t do anything for themselves. But I was highly functional. I’d just done the best album of my career. I was making a lot of people a lot of money, especially my father, who I found out took a bigger salary than he paid me. He paid himself more than $6 million”- page 166

She wasn't allowed to drive a car

  • *Haven’t read this bit yet.

She wasn't allowed to use the contraception she wanted.

She and her partner wanted to try for a baby. She was in her thirties and knew time was running out. She was not allowed to remove her IUD.

Some other things I think are important to mention:

  • Her phone calls and text messages were intercepted by her father including those she sent to her partner. Her home was bugged.
  • She didnt push back again the conservatorship sooner because she knew seeing her boys depended on her “behaving”.
  • She wasn’t allowed to take time off from Vegas despite being exhausted. Her father would promise “only X amount of shows then you can go on holiday with the boys”. Then the holiday never materialised and she was forced to continue working.

Reading some of the comments in this thread really hits home how once you have been labelled as “crazy”, especially as a woman, you have almost no chance of proving otherwise.

Of course she seems still not mentally well- she has come out of 13 years of abuse, essentially. Still doesn’t mean she should be shoved back into another conservatorship.

Leftlegwest · 25/10/2023 09:52

Mooshamoo · 24/10/2023 11:42

A lot of people are not mentally well. They don't get put into conservatorships.

Read her book if you can. Her dad didn't support her as conservator. He abused her.

I agree with this. Also at what point did she become so mentally unwell that she needed someone else to make her decisions for her? I would argue certainly not at the stage she went into the conservatorship. If she ever lacked capacity then was it caused by the strong drugs she was subjected to?

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