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Do you think that more intelligent people…

118 replies

ellencan · 20/10/2023 07:32

are generally of lower mood, depressive tendencies etc?

OP posts:
sorrynotathome · 20/10/2023 07:32

No

PimpMyFridge · 20/10/2023 07:32

No.

hollyblueivy · 20/10/2023 07:33

I think depression does not discriminate against intelligence or wealth- it can get anyone.

Azandme · 20/10/2023 07:33

No

Squirrelsnut · 20/10/2023 07:34

Yes.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 20/10/2023 07:35

No.

But I do remember some friends arguing about this when I was at Cambridge. As far as I was concerned, the one arguing the case for "no" won hands down.

I think it's a fairly common perception amongst some intelligent people, though. Academic and emotional intelligence don't always align.

Notinthegroupchats · 20/10/2023 07:36

So glad to see someone get oxbridge in within 6 posts. Mumsnet 🤣

x2boys · 20/10/2023 07:37

Notinthegroupchats · 20/10/2023 07:36

So glad to see someone get oxbridge in within 6 posts. Mumsnet 🤣

😂😂
This is mumsnet !

CesareBorgia · 20/10/2023 07:38

hollyblueivy · 20/10/2023 07:33

I think depression does not discriminate against intelligence or wealth- it can get anyone.

I agree.

MrsNandortheRelentless · 20/10/2023 07:38

No discrimination at all when it comes to depression.

Velvetbee · 20/10/2023 07:39

No.

EasternStandard · 20/10/2023 07:40

No

Pollyputhekettleon · 20/10/2023 07:40

Intelligence doesn't seem to correlate positively with neuroticism, which would be one of the major predictors of depression.

On the other hand I've read elsewhere that the more intelligent you are the more sensitive you are to environmental cues. If that's true then you'd expect intelligent people to be more impacted by living in the declining civilization that is the west and depression could be one response.

The five factor model of personality and intelligence: A twin study on the relationship between the two constructs - ScienceDirect

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 20/10/2023 07:40

Notinthegroupchats · 20/10/2023 07:36

So glad to see someone get oxbridge in within 6 posts. Mumsnet 🤣

It's relevant to the thread. There are probably higher concentrations of very intelligent people in both Oxford and Cambridge than there are in most places. If the OP's theory is correct, they should be utterly miserable places. They are not.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 20/10/2023 07:42

No

Notinthegroupchats · 20/10/2023 07:43

@MrsBennetsPoorNerves So just a bit of phenomenological research, not the usual need for someone over 40 to let everyone know what uni they went to. Totally normal behaviour.

berksandbeyond · 20/10/2023 07:46

I think depression does not discriminate. HOWEVER I think sometimes more intelligent people hold themselves to a higher standard and therefore are more likely to push themselves and experience disappointment/stress that comes from that. People who are more willing to accept a.. shall we say simpler life, and that might not be link with intelligence but sometimes is, will have less of that stress. For example I know families who have never given a single consideration to education, did the bare legally required minimum at school, got the first minimum wage job that’ll have them, generation upon generation living in council properties… and none of them striving for any more than that. I sometimes think that would be a less stressful way to live? They don’t appear to have put any pressure of themselves to improve their lives / careers…

Pollyputhekettleon · 20/10/2023 07:46

Depression does discriminate based on wealth. It's well established that it correlates negatively with socioeconomic status. The fact that anyone can get depressed doesn't change that.

C1N1C · 20/10/2023 07:47

I'm torn on this one... typically intelligence begets success and money. If you have more, you have an easier life, but have too much and it loses meaning.

The flip side is that if you're less intelligent, you need to work harder, your life is harder etc. So this hard life could make you depressed, but then again, you are constantly working, keeping busy, and that ambition keeps you going.

But I do agree that it generally doesn't discriminate.

YeahIsaidit · 20/10/2023 07:47

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 20/10/2023 07:40

It's relevant to the thread. There are probably higher concentrations of very intelligent people in both Oxford and Cambridge than there are in most places. If the OP's theory is correct, they should be utterly miserable places. They are not.

It isn't at all relevant, you could simply have said "university" as I'd imagine most people who'd take on degree level education would be pretty intelligent.

NotSuchASmugMarried · 20/10/2023 07:51

I think there is depression, then there is "shit life syndrome" which presents like depression. Your less likely to get "shit life syndrome" if your intelligent, but depression can get anybody.

Devilsmommy · 20/10/2023 07:53

NotSuchASmugMarried · 20/10/2023 07:51

I think there is depression, then there is "shit life syndrome" which presents like depression. Your less likely to get "shit life syndrome" if your intelligent, but depression can get anybody.

Very well put

Pollyputhekettleon · 20/10/2023 07:54

NotSuchASmugMarried · 20/10/2023 07:51

I think there is depression, then there is "shit life syndrome" which presents like depression. Your less likely to get "shit life syndrome" if your intelligent, but depression can get anybody.

Maybe. It's more likely to get you the lower your SES is though.

Tessisme · 20/10/2023 07:57

Notinthegroupchats · 20/10/2023 07:43

@MrsBennetsPoorNerves So just a bit of phenomenological research, not the usual need for someone over 40 to let everyone know what uni they went to. Totally normal behaviour.

Someone over 40? Did you get the person's age from that post?