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To find the early COVID era nostalgic?

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Acco · 15/10/2023 21:00

I’m mostly talking about the pre-lockdown and lockdown 1 era mostly but just 2020 in general to a lesser extent (but not 2021, I still hate it and it doesn’t seem that long ago). I haven’t thought about COVID for ages but I was taking about the toilet roll hysteria with my in laws tonight and then I saw a TikTok throwback to all the 2020 trends and sounds and it gave me a warm feeling inside. It’s an era I’d never want back but I remember the lovely sunny days in the garden in April and May 2020.
Anybody else feel this?

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Ponoka7 · 15/10/2023 23:41

Ramalangadingdong · 15/10/2023 23:36

Yes please remove this thread.

I remember reading about a care home in Italy which police discovered had been abandoned by the carers who left the elderly to die alone. Some of those elderly folks died not of covid but of starvation.

The right to life went out of the window. Then there was the animal abuse, mink thrown straight into grinders. Cats and dogs thrown into the sea/lakes/off buildings. Chinese children sealed in with dead relatives.

TiredOfIdiots · 15/10/2023 23:42

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Thepeopleversuswork · 15/10/2023 23:43

The OP is tone deaf to say the least but I still think it is possible to talk about positive outcomes of awful times.

It is, it is. But Please God without the awful Enid Blyton wish fulfilment of country walks, growing marrows together while we skip to the butchers to the sound or birdsong, crafting around the kitchen table. It would be nauseating enough if so many people hadn't died.

TiredOfIdiots · 15/10/2023 23:46

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EvilElsa · 15/10/2023 23:50

😳😬 nostalgic for the pandemic?!
Fuck me, talk about tone deaf. I agree this needs to be removed. I was lucky enough to get through without losing anybody, but mumsnet had lots of people suffering awful losses. Some people lost their jobs, some people still suffer now with long covid. Covid lockdowns were one of the greatest political, economic and moral blunders of modern times. Never mind though if you had a great time getting a tan in your garden and baking bloody banana bread.

TiredOfIdiots · 15/10/2023 23:53

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Busybeemumm · 16/10/2023 00:02

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I agree with this. I was furloughed for 6 months and think I should pay some extra tax back for the time I didn't work.

EmmaEmerald · 16/10/2023 00:04

I think the thread should stand

we were heavily censored on here before and it’s really important that these stories are heard

Fionaville · 16/10/2023 00:07

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 15/10/2023 23:28

A colleague came down with covid and was in hospital on breathing apparatus of some type.

I came down with covid myself, struggling to breathe in my home alone and terrified that if I died my cat would starve before anyone realised I was dead. I ran out of food with no one to go shopping for me and unable to order food online because I need to read labels to cope with an allergy. I literally did not eat for two days.

These are just two of the people affected by covid. Others died.

But all that suffering was worth it because it prompted you to realise some stuff that you could have realised anyway if you had any self-awareness. Hmm

I certainly am not suggesting people's lives and suffering are worth it at all. I was replying to somebody asking why it took lockdowns to make some people appreciate some things. Should it have? No. Do I wish covid and lockdowns never happened? Of course. I said in my earlier post that I was looking back at the time with Rose tinted glasses (as is my way) and it was what the thread was about. I found some things to turn into a positive, but it doesn't mean we weren't negatively effected at all.

EmmaEmerald · 16/10/2023 00:11

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I never suggested no measures

ever worked on a BCP for a pandemic? That’s another thread that got taken down in 2020

many clinical and non clinical interventions could have been put in place but governments worldwide threw those plans out of the window. Two of mum’s friends died after being refused hospital admission. One daughter drove her mum to a Nightingale thinking it was a hospital.

there weren’t even plastic partitions between covid patients. Ask any doctor or patient.

oh I also got told off for using the term “nosocomial spread”.

please let the thread stand, not least as a reminder of the neglected patients.

thank you for your comment on furlough btw. So true.

Cordeliathecat · 16/10/2023 00:14

user1477391263 · 15/10/2023 22:58

If you liked "family walks" or a quieter schedule with fewer activities etc., why can't you just do them anyway? Why did it require lockdown for them to happen? You're not legally required to pack your children's afterschool hours with endless classes.

You are completely right. But for some of us it took that huge, once in a lifetime event to wake up and smell the coffee. To realise exactly what is important and what is just not worth it.

Covid was awful, I lost family members, but in some ways it saved my mental health and my family. I will never go back to the way I was living. I’ve learned from the experience.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 16/10/2023 00:17

EmmaEmerald · 16/10/2023 00:04

I think the thread should stand

we were heavily censored on here before and it’s really important that these stories are heard

The thread should stand just to show how fucking arrogant and selfish some people are.

We had freshers shut up in flats with total strangers, getting sandwiches delivered every day because they couldn't go shopping. Young people living on sandwiches for weeks and unable to go outside.

I'm autistic and live alone and the isolation got even to me who notoriously hates being around other people. My neurotypical colleagues were overloading the Employee Assistance Programme helpline with mental health problems caused by not seeing people.

And the long-term impact on "the economy" aka cost of living, jobs, etc is not to be discounted.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 16/10/2023 00:21

Cordeliathecat · 16/10/2023 00:14

You are completely right. But for some of us it took that huge, once in a lifetime event to wake up and smell the coffee. To realise exactly what is important and what is just not worth it.

Covid was awful, I lost family members, but in some ways it saved my mental health and my family. I will never go back to the way I was living. I’ve learned from the experience.

You realising your own lack of recognition of the rat race does not outweigh the deaths and suffering.

What you learned could have also been gleaned from a copy of Work Won't Love You Back.

Bluegreenseasoffoam · 16/10/2023 00:30

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No it wouldn’t. The Diamond Princess demonstrated that before Lockdown. Sweden demonstrated it throughout.

Even if you were correct, nothing justifies what they did.

Cordeliathecat · 16/10/2023 00:30

FebruaryOnMyMind · 15/10/2023 23:07

If you were enjoying the garden in the sunshine with family and no financial worries hiw lovely.

Working hard no.

Worries about vulnerable no.

Unable to see family in care homes elderly or disabled relatives hell on earth... so no to the selfish I'm alright Jack Brigade

Selfish people appeared to enjoy it whilst no concern for others who struggled

Why are you assuming it could only be one way or the other though?

Perhaps some of those remembering fondly the sunny days in the garden with family also had financial concerns and family alone in hospital? But they choose to try and focus on the small positive memories of that time?

When my kids and I talk of the past few years I always try to ensure we remember the good times, because there were some, and not just the horror and fear we were feeling. The constant negative news, the grandparents they lost, the schooling they missed and the god awful job I did at home schooling.

IamRa · 16/10/2023 00:35

@FOTTFSOFTFOASM

Don't worry - HQ suspended anyone whose views on lockdown weren't the governmentally approved ones. So there was a slightly skewed perspective...

Why are they still here then?

Ponoka7 · 16/10/2023 00:38

EmmaEmerald · 16/10/2023 00:11

I never suggested no measures

ever worked on a BCP for a pandemic? That’s another thread that got taken down in 2020

many clinical and non clinical interventions could have been put in place but governments worldwide threw those plans out of the window. Two of mum’s friends died after being refused hospital admission. One daughter drove her mum to a Nightingale thinking it was a hospital.

there weren’t even plastic partitions between covid patients. Ask any doctor or patient.

oh I also got told off for using the term “nosocomial spread”.

please let the thread stand, not least as a reminder of the neglected patients.

thank you for your comment on furlough btw. So true.

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In the hospital my DD worked in barrier nursing was never really in place and private patients could have as many visitors as they liked. If they were short staffed they were and still are told not to test. It was heartbreaking watching elderly/vulnerable people alone, sobbing, while the private room was full of people coming and going, coughing or not.

EmmaEmerald · 16/10/2023 00:39

IamRa · 16/10/2023 00:35

@FOTTFSOFTFOASM

Don't worry - HQ suspended anyone whose views on lockdown weren't the governmentally approved ones. So there was a slightly skewed perspective...

Why are they still here then?

Suspensions are temporary. I think mine was three days.

though I think some posters were fully permanently banned but not sure.

Fionaville · 16/10/2023 00:53

@FebruaryOnMyMind I posted earlier about how I look back with Rose tinted glasses to summer 2020. Enjoying the garden and all the rest. And I've been criticised for it, which I accept.
But don't assume that means we were oblivious of any hardship and didn't have worries. My DH was made redundant in lockdown. My young son was classed as extremely vulnerable. I was terrified for him! My heart was breaking for everyone. But what I won't apologise for is making the absolute best of it for my family. For still letting him play in our garden in the sunshine, despite letters saying don't let him even near the window, because I knew he wouldnt catch it out there and fresh air and sunshine was the best thing for him. But even that was a worry at the time.
So I do look back at the fun we had and the peaceful way of life we lived and feel lucky that we were able to give our children happy memories that summer.

Acco · 16/10/2023 00:57

Look, this thread has obviously hit a nerve with many people and this thread was intended to be about the mixed and weird feelings about a really bizarre period of our history that we seem to have forgotten until reminded of it. I’m feeling a little disturbed by some of the stories on here and they have unlocked some memories of the stories on the news at the time. It’s really terrible what many people went through.

Correct me if wrong but I thought there were only a few thousand cases in lockdown 1 so I’m surprised so many people were affected by it so early. Cases peaked in early 2021 and that’s when I remember it mostly affecting people I knew which is significantly AFTER the period I’m talking about.

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EmmaEmerald · 16/10/2023 01:09

Acco “that we seem to have forgotten until reminded of it. I’m feeling a little disturbed by some of the stories on here”

in real life, I don’t really know anyone who has forgotten the horror of that period. It’s probably good that you feel disturbed.

but you mention cases without mentioning the impact of lockdown itself. Care home patients with no visitors. Kids scared to go outside. Gatherings not allowed, people not permitted to touch anyone at a tiny funeral.

I had a nervous breakdown in July this year. I was surprised how helpful people were because they didn’t give a crap when I was suicidal in lockdown. My mum thinks it’s because people didn’t believe it. I found that an odd idea, but looking at your comments and your tone, maybe mum is correct. Or maybe they were so traumatised themselves, they couldn’t cope with me saying it.

as you’re brave enough to come back to thread…what did you think about people living alone, in small spaces, allowed to see no one? What did you think about medical staff and other essential workers? Or did you just forget we existed?

@MintyCedric mised your post earlier. Hi! Think my breakdown might link to lockdown PTSD. Hope you’re doing as well as can be expected

EmmaEmerald · 16/10/2023 01:18

Oh and you are seriously backpedaling

you started a thread about nostalgia and sunshine, like reminiscing about is lovely holiday. Of course people are furious and telling you things that frankly you need to hear.

teenagetantrums · 16/10/2023 01:39

To be honest although me and DP worked all through the lockdowns, l did kind of like them. No need to go and see family and freiends that live far away.. Just work and go home. I sometimes feel a bit guilty that the pandemic had no real effect on my life. I could still see my friends that l worked with and as we were together all day we also had no problems seeing each other outside work in each other's homes.
I did feel sorry for the residents if the care home where l worked, who where confined to their rooms with no visitors. And to be to honest l was l jealous of everyone on furlough sitting in the sun whilevl went to work

canyousmelltoast · 16/10/2023 01:42

Justify it however you like, but this is in poor taste. Might be worth asking for it to be removed. Far too soon to get blasé.

EmmaEmerald · 16/10/2023 01:48

teenage " I could still see my friends that l worked with and as we were together all day we also had no problems seeing each other outside work in each other's homes."

so you weren't worried about the law, being fined etc? I was terrified but I would also struggle with work if I got into trouble with the law. People in my block of flats were watching closely. The one friend who came to me to stop me jumping off the balcony was immediately questioned by a neighbour.

I understand being jealous of furlough. Money for nothing. I know a couple of people who got other jobs while on furlough.

the so-called scientists did nothing to stop the spread. Tons of social control, very little infection control.

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