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FelicityFlops · 13/10/2023 22:14

New Labour, in 1997, did not deliver on its election promises?
There seem to be a lot of people on this site, who were "seduced" into thinking they had a great future.
I do not believe this to be true.
Gold reserves sold off, Gordon Brown saying he wasn't going to do anything with the economy, because it was in good shape.
Does nobody think the country was put in an even worse situation then? Or is critical thinking a 2020s "woke" attribute?

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Boomboom22 · 13/10/2023 23:45

Ie the investment was a lie we are still paying for now. We didn't actually pay for those services under labour but through the last few decades too.

TheSmallAssassin · 13/10/2023 23:46

I thought the New Labour years were pretty good, I felt the UK was quite prosperous then, after the recessions we'd had in the 80s and 90s under the Tories. Until the 2008 recession which was a result of the banking crisis (and fuelled by the Tories' deregulation of the banks)

New Labour had some great achievements like Sure Start, the minimum wage, civil partnerships, the Human Rights Act, the Good Friday Agreement, bringing down NHS waiting lists... They did a much better job than the current self serving, corrupt incumbents.

Boomboom22 · 13/10/2023 23:51

Yes but all on credit. Its like saying oh I furnished the house lovely from bright house don't worry you only have to pay back 5 times as much for the next 20 years to investors.
The point of privatising is supposed to be efficency and less risk to the state not binding contracts to build sure schools and hospital at higher cost over time.

Boomboom22 · 13/10/2023 23:54

We could have done without the brexit vote and covid, let's hope when Labour do get in this time they show some sense with the economy.
The tories have lost all sense anyway at the mo, too long in power and too much upheaval. Loads of mps are not even standing.
My area will be a new constituency which makes sense, prob still be tory as this is tory heartlands though.

Kweenbee · 14/10/2023 00:05

Income tax being introduced as a "temporary measure", that's what I'm still upset about....

If you think New Labour were mendacious and incompetent, what's your view on what the current bunch of Pharisees have been up to since 2010? Waiting with bated breath....

Zonder · 14/10/2023 00:45

Boomboom22 · 13/10/2023 23:51

Yes but all on credit. Its like saying oh I furnished the house lovely from bright house don't worry you only have to pay back 5 times as much for the next 20 years to investors.
The point of privatising is supposed to be efficency and less risk to the state not binding contracts to build sure schools and hospital at higher cost over time.

All on credit? You know the current lot borrow far more and we have bugger all to show for it?

And privatisation doesn't mean less risk for the state. The primary purpose is income for the owners.

smilesup · 14/10/2023 00:53

Oh yes I remember the terrible introduction of a minimum wage which saw my pay packet triple. That was shite.
Ohhh and the terrible surestart centre where I got a walk in session with a speech therapist and a really horrible supportive playgroup with trained staff who recognised myPND and got me instant counselling at the awful NHS service that saved me from drowning in depression. I did hate the iraq war and voted green for 2 elections but fuck me my life was soooooo much better under labour.

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