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Not to know wtf Shoogle means

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CrapBucket · 12/10/2023 22:32

Keep getting a sponsor thread shown to me - ‘You can shoogle it like a pram’ - that’s lovely but I have no idea what that means and I clicked the link and still don’t know…

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pitterypattery00 · 12/10/2023 23:33

KingsleyBorder · 12/10/2023 23:10

Out of interest, do you know what “squint” means, when it’s not referring to an eye condition?

It means “crooked”, as in “that picture’s squint”. I only found out recently that it’s not used outside (outwith 😀) Scotland. Took me 30 years living in England to realise!

I remember saying to my English DP 'the picture's squint' and he had not idea what I was on about.

He also thinks it's odd I say 'the rains gone off/come on'

Anyway, shoogly is a brilliant word. I am trying my best to pass my Scottish vocab on to my English child!

CesareBorgia · 12/10/2023 23:34

BluebellsareBlue · 12/10/2023 23:29

Used frequently in Scotland "the boss' coat is on a shoogly peg". It's means wobble or shake gently

Love that use of the word!

divinededacende · 12/10/2023 23:36

Merrilydancing · 12/10/2023 23:27

I had no idea that squint was a Scottish word, I mean what is the real name of the squinty bridge?

I live two minutes from the Squinty Bridge and I'm always "the whit?!" when someone uses its real name. It just doesn't feel right.

CesareBorgia · 12/10/2023 23:37

I came a cropper with the Scottish use of the word 'stay' the first time of hearing it

Scottish work colleague: 'Do you stay in [my hometown]?'

Me [a bit puzzled] "No, I live there."

😁

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 12/10/2023 23:40

Didn't know squint was a Scottish word, it's used quite often to mean wonky in this bit of Cornwall!

I once heard someone say shoogly, they then had to explain what it meant, so I did know that one. But I've only heard it that once.

I like outwith, it's a nice sounding word, but despite a long and interesting convo on here trying to understand the diffence between outwith and outside, I'm still none the wiser.

The one that foxed me when I went to Scotland was 'just now'. Which seems to mean 'now' or maybe 'asap' as far as I could work out. Down here 'just now' has already happened - so being asked if I want my order of chips 'just now' was a bit confusing, I thought they were asking if I'd already had them! 😂

334bu · 12/10/2023 23:41

The Squinty bridge's posh name is the Clyde Arc. I also think that further up the Clyde the pedestrian suspension bridge is called the Shooglie Bridge. I might be wrong about that though.

divinededacende · 12/10/2023 23:46

I never knew that outwith was only a Scottish word until my friend went to study law and told us all. Explained why spellchecker never liked it.

That's one of those Scottish words that's actually useful though because it is slightly different from outside and used in a different context.

WeighDownOnMeStayTillMorning · 12/10/2023 23:46

I genuinely thought it's real name was the Squinty Bridge 😆

divinededacende · 12/10/2023 23:48

334bu · 12/10/2023 23:41

The Squinty bridge's posh name is the Clyde Arc. I also think that further up the Clyde the pedestrian suspension bridge is called the Shooglie Bridge. I might be wrong about that though.

I'm pretty sure one of them is also called the jaggy bridge. The white one with really angular pyramid shaped supports close to the railway bridge.

WeighDownOnMeStayTillMorning · 12/10/2023 23:50

Oh see I wouldn't say jaggy, I would say jaggedy

Fleur405 · 12/10/2023 23:50

I had no idea outwith was Scottish. I’m a lawyer and use it quite a lot! It’s always annoyed me that spell check refuses to recognise it’s a word!

divinededacende · 12/10/2023 23:55

See, I've never heard jaggedy. I used to live North Lanarkshire and we'd argue with people from the next town over about the 'right' words to use because we had our own ways... not like any of the words we argued over were real English language words to begin with 🤣.

RaininSummer · 12/10/2023 23:56

I thought this thread was about a designer dog. A hybrid shitzu poodle mated with a beagle aka shoogle.

LaviniasBigBloomers · 12/10/2023 23:58

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 12/10/2023 23:40

Didn't know squint was a Scottish word, it's used quite often to mean wonky in this bit of Cornwall!

I once heard someone say shoogly, they then had to explain what it meant, so I did know that one. But I've only heard it that once.

I like outwith, it's a nice sounding word, but despite a long and interesting convo on here trying to understand the diffence between outwith and outside, I'm still none the wiser.

The one that foxed me when I went to Scotland was 'just now'. Which seems to mean 'now' or maybe 'asap' as far as I could work out. Down here 'just now' has already happened - so being asked if I want my order of chips 'just now' was a bit confusing, I thought they were asking if I'd already had them! 😂

I'm a copywriter and use 'just' far more than is advisable. When I start an edit I do a search for it and it's every second sentence usually.

Outwith and outside are synonyms, really.

His coat's on a shoogly peg is just the most elegant put-down ever. 'Ach, don't worry about what he said at the appraisal, his coat's on a shoogly peg.

(Realise I've slipped another just in there, see what I mean?)

CesareBorgia · 13/10/2023 00:03

RaininSummer · 12/10/2023 23:56

I thought this thread was about a designer dog. A hybrid shitzu poodle mated with a beagle aka shoogle.

Just seen this pop up on active 😃

A shoogle dog is almost a thing.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_doghouse/4913716-top-tips-for-new-shoodle

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 13/10/2023 06:24

The pedestrian bridge further east of the Squinty Bridge is called the Squiggly Bridge is it not?

This is the first time I've heard anyone say that "squint" is a Scottish word. I spent decades living in London and used it loads - never met with any incomprehension, and pretty sure that other people around me also used it in that way. But maybe that's because some of them were from places like Northern Ireland? Or because so many Londoners come from so many different places that they readily pick up words from each other and don't bother commenting when it's so obvious what something means?
And what other word would you use????! Is this another example of standard English lacking a useful word to describe a very common phenomenon? Do you really just say that something's "not straight"?

MassageForLife · 13/10/2023 06:35

"The one that foxed me when I went to Scotland was 'just now'. Which seems to mean 'now' or maybe 'asap' as far as I could work out. Down here 'just now' has already happened - so being asked if I want my order of chips 'just now' was a bit confusing, I thought they were asking if I'd already had them! 😂"

Don't go to South Africa!! I was invited to go to the beach with South Africans and I asked when they were going. I was told 'just now'. Well, I rushed to get ready to head out. Turns out their version of 'just now' means maybe in half an hour to an hour... (Not saying it's the same for all South Africans, I haven't met them all, but that was certainly the case for these four).

MassageForLife · 13/10/2023 06:36

"And what other word would you use????!"

I would use 'skew-wiff'. Don't know where that comes from 😆

KingsleyBorder · 13/10/2023 07:12

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 13/10/2023 06:24

The pedestrian bridge further east of the Squinty Bridge is called the Squiggly Bridge is it not?

This is the first time I've heard anyone say that "squint" is a Scottish word. I spent decades living in London and used it loads - never met with any incomprehension, and pretty sure that other people around me also used it in that way. But maybe that's because some of them were from places like Northern Ireland? Or because so many Londoners come from so many different places that they readily pick up words from each other and don't bother commenting when it's so obvious what something means?
And what other word would you use????! Is this another example of standard English lacking a useful word to describe a very common phenomenon? Do you really just say that something's "not straight"?

Edited

I said it in my original post about squint- the English word is “crooked” - crook-ED.
The reason people understand in England is that it is usually obvious from the context and they know the word from the eye condition. And they are used to people with our accent peppering our speech with Scottish words. But it is not generally a word that would be used by a person who grew up in England.

BarryKentPoet · 13/10/2023 07:15

Another Scot here, have always used it to describe the wee rock you give to babies or something slightly wobbly.

KingsleyBorder · 13/10/2023 07:16

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 13/10/2023 06:24

The pedestrian bridge further east of the Squinty Bridge is called the Squiggly Bridge is it not?

This is the first time I've heard anyone say that "squint" is a Scottish word. I spent decades living in London and used it loads - never met with any incomprehension, and pretty sure that other people around me also used it in that way. But maybe that's because some of them were from places like Northern Ireland? Or because so many Londoners come from so many different places that they readily pick up words from each other and don't bother commenting when it's so obvious what something means?
And what other word would you use????! Is this another example of standard English lacking a useful word to describe a very common phenomenon? Do you really just say that something's "not straight"?

Edited

https://www.thenational.scot/news/19103847.shock-presenter-reveals-common-word-used-scotland/#:~:text=squint'%20is%20Scots%20for%20'not%20straight'.

Shock as presenter reveals this common word is only used in Scotland

ONLY last year Twitter users were shocked "outwith" was a word only used in Scotland and now the same has happened again.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/19103847.shock-presenter-reveals-common-word-used-scotland/#:~:text=squint'%20is%20Scots%20for%20'not%20straight'.

MoiraRosesBaybay · 13/10/2023 07:30

I don’t know squint to mean not straight. Where I live we would say ‘on the huh’. Where I grew up it would be ‘on the wonk ’.

curtaintwitcher78 · 13/10/2023 07:51

'PLEASE INSERT NEW PRINT CARTRIDGE' = "Just shoogle it!"

Terfosaurus · 13/10/2023 07:57

MassageForLife · 13/10/2023 06:36

"And what other word would you use????!"

I would use 'skew-wiff'. Don't know where that comes from 😆

We'd say skew-wiff, wonky, crooked or just not straight.

Kucinghitam · 13/10/2023 07:58

MassageForLife · 13/10/2023 06:35

"The one that foxed me when I went to Scotland was 'just now'. Which seems to mean 'now' or maybe 'asap' as far as I could work out. Down here 'just now' has already happened - so being asked if I want my order of chips 'just now' was a bit confusing, I thought they were asking if I'd already had them! 😂"

Don't go to South Africa!! I was invited to go to the beach with South Africans and I asked when they were going. I was told 'just now'. Well, I rushed to get ready to head out. Turns out their version of 'just now' means maybe in half an hour to an hour... (Not saying it's the same for all South Africans, I haven't met them all, but that was certainly the case for these four).

For even more confusion, in Malaysian English, “just now” means “At some unspecified time in the past.”

So a sentence like “He did it just now” could mean that he did it 5 minutes or 5 hours ago!