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Taking ashes abroad. Have you done it? Or know anyone?

14 replies

IncognitoMam · 08/10/2023 17:31

Have you done it? Not aibu just posting for traffic.

I'm thinking of going with siblings next year to scatter ashes at mam's favourite holiday place.

I read I need a certificate of cremation? I think her partner has these? We aren't in touch. He never bothered after she died. My sister has mam's ashes though.

Really hope it's possible?

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ForfarBridie · 08/10/2023 17:35

I’m also interested in the answer to this as I really want to bring my mums ashes home with me to the place we we very happy.

IncognitoMam · 08/10/2023 17:39

Well hopefully someone can advise us?

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TreesWelliesKnees · 08/10/2023 17:40

I've done this. I took ashes to Switzerland, via Italy. Different countries have different rules. You can find out online what each country's rules are. From memory, Switzerland had no issues, but for Italy I needed a permission letter from the Italian embassy as well as the certificate of cremation. It's not as big a deal as I thought it would be. They didn't bat an eyelid at airport security.

TreesWelliesKnees · 08/10/2023 17:41

There are also other rules about whether you can scatter them. Some countries don't allow it.

feellikeanalien · 08/10/2023 17:49

I took some of DP's ashes to Portugal. I had the cremation certificate and the death certificate. The undertaker told me that the cremation certificate is needed but I'm not sure what you can do if you don't have it.

Did you get the ashes from the undertaker or from your mum's partner? I got the cremation certificate with the ashes when I collected them from the undertaker. Is your sister sure that this wasn't with them?

You will also need to check the requirements of the particular country as they can differ.

You also have to have a specific type of container. Depending on the airline you are flying with they should have this information on their website.

I did mention that I was carrying ashes when I went through security but they never actually asked to see the paperwork.

fourelementary · 08/10/2023 17:50

Can’t obviously suggest this as it’s not legal but we took my grand ashes. Some in a tea caddy in luggage and some in a wee toiletries bottle in luggage. No one asked or checked.

gotomomo · 08/10/2023 17:56

Firstly yes you need the certificate of cremation, you need permission from the airline and for them to be carried in an approved container. Secondly you need permission from the place you are scattering them - this will vary depending upon where you are taking them but most jurisdictions will require some sort of permit. Scattering at sea requires additional requirements.

Start with the certificate, then check about the proposed scatter site then finally sort out the airline requirements (it's definitely possible though)

Prometheus · 08/10/2023 17:59

My friend recently flew to Ireland and then France with her parents ashes just in a box in her rucksack. No certificates.

Moonlight222 · 08/10/2023 18:02

My nans ashes have been taken back to Ireland recently unfortunately I couldn’t do it as my mum is terminally ill, I had to have documentation from the crematorium and death certificate and make sure the urn was safe for X-ray machine, there are rules as it’s human remains

gotomomo · 08/10/2023 18:10

@Prometheus

Whilst people do do this, it's not strictly legal so you could be stopped. It's also not legal just to scatter anywhere, again because you got away with it doesn't mean another person won't get into trouble

www.asheswithart.co.uk/blogs/news/transport-human-ashes-on-a-plane#:~:text=You%20will%20also%20need%20to,and%20the%20certificate%20of%20cremation.

IncognitoMam · 08/10/2023 23:00

Thanks all definitely something we'll have to look into.

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Tiggles · 08/10/2023 23:04

As a vicar I have buried ashes in this country in our graveyard that were flown in from Australia. To Bury ashes I need to have the certificate of cremation. That was also needed by the family to take them on the airline.

anon0007 · 08/10/2023 23:15

Dh and I did. We needed the cremation certificate and the death certificate. We took them to America.

TigerQueenie · 08/10/2023 23:18

I've only brought them into the UK. Didn't have a certificate as one was issued in the country the cremation took place in. They were in a wooden box and a porcelain urn in a rucksack. Nobody asked any questions at the airport. I checked with the airline beforehand and there were no restrictions.

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