Teacher not ready

[Gangreenoh]

DS is in year 4 and have been told the teacher will only read with him (hear him read) once or twice this year. Is this the norm? Really disappointed by this!!

Have i missed the part about SEN?

I’m a teacher. Dropped my Yr 5 off at 7.30 this morning. Just leaving school now as has parent evening. I’ll still hear him read when I get home. Take some responsibility for your child’s learning. Also, it’s shouldn’t be a chore - reading together should be pleasurable.

Teachers do not generally listen to children read 1 :1 at this age unless there are specific needs. There simply isn't time. What would the rest of the class be doing while this is happening? How long would it take for each child to be heard?

I also work. Cheek.
Get your head out of your own arsehole and into the real world. Teachers don't have time to read 1:1 with everyone unfortunately.
Your son needs to read with you at home, it's important.

I hear most of the children in my class read daily; during guided reading lessons, asking them to read what is on the board, asking them to read me questions in their text books, reading the lyrics to the song off the board etc. I rarely listen to them 1:1. To listen to 30 children read 1:1 would mean I am not actually teaching the other 29. I only listen to the bottom 20%/children with SEN regularly. Your child's teacher will still listen to them read, just not in the traditional way.

Unfortunately, this is the way it is now… people dont seem to realise that they have to volunteer to help others (&their own!)
its a bit like the funding issue.. it’s the same people who organise the school disco, actually supervise the school disco and get all the sweets for the schools disco… but if they’re isn’t a school disco it’s other people’s fault 😞

Spend 10 mins listening to your child read ffs

You,as a parent, need to value and enjoy reading. My DH and I are both teachers. We read to our DD all the time and she reads to us all the time.
Find or make time to listen and read to your DS. Step up ,don't punch down on teachers.

It only needs to be 10 mins a day op - is bedtime an option? Let them choose what to read, take it in turns, whatever it takes.

Will they do timestables/other work set? Is it just reading they refuse to do?

Why does he refuse to read? My dd teacher/teaching assistant or school librarian hear her read 2 or 3 times a week 1-1 and the school also expect parents to record us hearing them ready as much as possible. I work 7.30-5.30 most days and it's a struggle but hear her 3ish times a week.

How sad that a parent cannot find 10-15 mins to spend sharing a book with their child. Some of my happiest childhood memories are of my parents teaching me to read and I hope they will be my children’s too…

Reading should be a pleasure. It helps to support the rest of a child’s education so much that any decent parent of a 5 year old should be invested every day.

It really doesn’t matter that he won’t read to you. Pick lovely books and spend 30 mins before bed reading to him. Trail your finger across the words, use voices and emphasis. Make it a delightful lovely time together every day. Go to the library. Make reading and books a pleasure not a chore!

It helps getting them to bed too. Win win.

My youngest hated reading to me so we read to her every night (most nights). It’s really important for vocab and shares an adult’s love of reading.

We now have family reading before bedtime 2-3 times a week. Everyone gets their books and we all sit quietly in the living room reading our own books (dc are 12-15).

oh and I work full time in the nhs and am currently studying for my masters around that while raising 3dc. Reading at school in year 4 is often focused on those struggling but they do expect parents to do some of this as they’re only in school about 6 hours a day 5 days a week.

To be honest. That's pretty much the norm. I did some supply work in reception and the children only read in small groups. Never one to one

Most people do work yet find time to hear their children read!
I remember going to a party once and a woman, who I didn’t know, was saying that she didn’t have time to hear her children read. Yet she had time to go to a party!

Child is year 4 (usually 8-9) not 5

I teach year 6 currently. While I would love to listen to the children read, it just isn’t feasible or fair to make the other 30 work independently for an hour each day. We also wouldn’t come close to the covering the already too busy curriculum!

My DC didn’t do any 1:1 reading with school staff or volunteers after year 2. They read out loud in groups in year 3 but I don’t think they did even that in year 4. So I don’t find it strange if he’s average or above.

Why are you disappointed? Does he need more help than most with reading? Why won’t he read to you? If you think he would benefit from it, do you have a friend or relative he would be okay reading out loud to? It’s frustrating if school are missing the basics, but important to plug that gap if you can as will have follow on impact all through school.

This was in response to volunteering at the school.

I work too. Still listening to ds2 read several times a week. If all else fails, do it in the car.

Ds1 rarely reads to me, but he's perfectly capable of reading to himself, he's also in year 4, I can't remember when he would have last read to a teacher

What are you asking him to read to you?

This is your problem I'm afraid, not the teacher.

Most kids are reading fluently by year 4 (obvo not war and peace, but any vocabulary they know by then).

If your child isn't, it will be because his parents haven't been reading with him every night, like other parents do, and many of them work too.

Don't be silly. By Y4, children should be reading fluently unless there are any SEND. Comprehension skills should be taught at this age.

Would you rather the teacher spend 10 mins listening to your child read? Then the other 29 children to make it fair? Which equates to 5 hours or a full day of just listening to kids read?

Leaving 4 days for everything else on an already overstuffed curriculum. Do you understand why this isn't possible?!

Yeah, YBU. Reading with your kid is YOUR job. It's one thing you can do to help them. If they won't read, well, frankly that's your problem.

You need to get a grip of behaviour. Easier now than when he is 13 and refusing to do any homework.

he doesn't get to refuse to read. When he goes to bed do you just read to him? Instead do a page each. That’s what I do with the 7yr old.

and ‘I work’ is a really crappy excuse for not hearing your own child read.

You can’t find time to read with one child but you expect the teacher to read with 30?
I volunteer one afternoon a week in our local primary to read with Y2 - school have decided to focus any volunteer help there so the children don’t progress to KS2 with poor reading skills. Adults hearing them read at home makes a massive difference - I can read with about 10 children but there are not enough volunteers for all of that year group to get a 1:1 even once a week. The school used to have 4TAs solely dedicated to reading practice - now there is 1 and she is also the librarian and a playground supervisor (so time for reading 1-2-1 limited).