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Small issue with my neighbour…

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TakesTheCake · 02/10/2023 14:50

Our garden is slightly higher than our neighbour’s garden, and we share a fence with a kind of rut/dip underneath it. Half of my garden is lawn but the nearest portion is patio.

We have free ranging chickens and once a week I wash down the patio with the hose and a broom because of the chicken poo. Any bits go into the rut underneath but depending on how long I spend doing it, some water inevitably builds up in the rut and runs onto the neighbour’s path, alongside the fence.

We are on OK terms with the neighbour, though it’s an odd arrangement where our houses are on different streets so I actually have never seen the front of their house and am not sure where it is. We have chatted over the fence, though, and it’s always been friendly enough.

Yesterday I washed down the patio, and the neighbour was in her garden. It was clearly long enough to overspill onto her path as she yelled out that the water was coming onto her path. I apologised and immediately stopped, moving onto the portion of our patio where the water runs into our own flower bed and lawn. However she then yelled again (quite angrily) and said it was still running through. This could not have been additional water as I had moved past that point by then. She said to look over the fence and I did, and what I consider a small amount of water was wetting her path. Clear water not muddy or pooey water. I explained that I really had stopped cleaning that area as soon as she called the first time, and all run-off was now going onto our flower bed and lawn. It must have been just still dribbling through from before. She stomped off into the house angrily while I was standing there.

I’m really dismayed as I hate having any issues with the neighbours or bothering anyone. I feel like it’s just water and I’m not sure what the big deal is but now questioning myself. Should I stop ever using water on the back portion of our patio? We pressure clean it once a year too, and it’s completely unavoidable to stop the water going onto the neighbour’s path. I can try to avoid using water on that segment of the patio that butts right up against the shared fence, or do it as little as possible, but it’s not possible to avoid it altogether.

I want to hang a bag with box of our chickens’ eggs from a fence post so it’s on their side of the fence, with a note to say sorry, but not sure how to word it. “I’m sorry about the water but I don’t get what the big deal is” obviously isn’t an option, but “I’m sorry about the water and I’ll never do it again” isn’t a promise I can keep. I don’t know if the tiny gap at the bottom of the fence can be filled in but that’s something I will look into.

Any suggestions or perspectives? I know it is a small issue but I really want to avoid any bad feeling of any kind.

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AThickLayerOfLard · 02/10/2023 15:40

you need to stop the water entering her land. Either stop hosing or put drainage in on your side of the fence to prevent run off.

Under the law laid down in Leakey v. National Trust an occupier of land is liable for all natural as well as non-natural substances egressing from his land if they cause a nuisance to his neighbour. Accordingly, if your rainwater causes a nuisance to your neighbour, you are liable for it and can be sued in damages.
https://www.justanswer.co.uk/law/9rf6v-responsible-rainwater-run-off-going-neighbours.html#:~:text=Under%20the%20law%20laid%20down,can%20be%20sued%20in%20damages.

KatieB55 · 02/10/2023 15:41

We had a neighbour who complained about water from our sprinkler going onto her plants - ridiculous!

Beautiful3 · 02/10/2023 15:49

I wouldn't worry about it. Just pass over some eggs, to keep the peace.

GasPanic · 02/10/2023 15:50

It's not very nice to send foul water onto her side, irrespective of whether it had actual solid material in it on this occasion maybe it has done in the past. Maybe the rut also stinks when the water drains away. After all the chicken droppings have to go somewhere. It's not nice to use the bounday rut as sewage disposal.

You should improve the drainage so the water goes somewhere else, or maybe fence off the patio so the birds can't get on it.

As other people have said, the fact that you need to wash it down once a week implies there is quite a bit of crap on it.

Graciebobcat · 02/10/2023 15:59

Aquamarine1029 · 02/10/2023 15:13

It is not just "clear water", it's dirty chicken shit water and I wouldn't want that on my path, either. I say this as someone who keeps chickens, btw, although away from my back garden so we avoid this exact disgusting issue. I do not want chicken shit germs being brought into my house.

Very dilute chicken poo water is hardly an issue and chicken poo is sold as a fertiliser anyway.

Tinkerbyebye · 02/10/2023 16:02

Fence of your patio so they can’t get on it, or clean it daily via sweeping

I would be annoyed if you were washing chicken shit into a shared rut between the gardens

OldTinHat · 02/10/2023 16:08

Sand bags to fill the gap and stop water run off?

Eggs and a simple 'sorry about the water' note is a nice idea.

muddyford · 02/10/2023 16:08

Our previous neighbours started pressure-washing their path, a foot above ours. All the cruddy water was streaming under the fence until I yelled at them to stop. Not acceptable.

BetterWithPockets · 02/10/2023 16:15

Sniffmyfingers · 02/10/2023 15:29

Ask her how she manages to keep her paving and roof stay dry when it rains. Perhaps then she’ll realise how stupid she’s being.

Not saying she’s in the right here but when I let my dogs out and it’s wet, I make sure there’s a mat down for when they come in and a towel to hand. When the weather’s nice, I don’t do this…

TakesTheCake · 02/10/2023 16:19

Here’s what the garden looks like, for scale with the four bantams. I do sweep the patio, most days, but when I’m watering the pots with the hose and not from
the water butt, I do wash it down - as quickly as possible to avoid excess water. Pressure-washing is literally an annual event.

We use ground sanitiser in the chicken run especially when they are locked in, but the garden is so big we have never felt the need to use it all over as the small poos are so spread out across the whole area.

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loislovesstewie · 02/10/2023 16:25

I was hoping for a pic of the bantams!

Sensoria · 02/10/2023 16:26

I really wouldn’t be happy with my neighbour’s chicken poo water coming into my garden.

Can you not change the direction of the hose, so that you are standing with your back to the fence and washing away from the fence?

TakesTheCake · 02/10/2023 16:29

loislovesstewie just for you! Only three as one is currently laying. HeiHei, Buffy and Wisp.

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TakesTheCake · 02/10/2023 16:31

sensoria, because it’s on a slight slant, it still comes back if I do that, as there is nowhere for it to go if I have my back to the fence. What I try to do is stand with my back to the back, and spray it forward onto the flower bed, as quickly as possible, inevitably some goes sideways.

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Frequency · 02/10/2023 16:32

Your grass is lovely OP.

I'm completely missing the point of the thread but I've had issues with our grass since moving in 6 years ago (thin, brown/dead, bare patches, too many weeds, etc.)

Do you do anything special other than adding chicken poo?

Bleuuuughhh · 02/10/2023 16:35

Frequency · 02/10/2023 15:07

If you have a garden, you have poo in your garden regardless of the neighbour's chickens. There'll be wild bird poo, fox poo, rat poo, mouse poo, mole poo... all manner of poo.

Plus bird poo is pretty much liquid anyway so if OP was washing it down it would have dissolved. It's not like she was chucking lumps of shit onto the neighbour's path.

Liquidated bird shite all over my path. Yum yum.

Evaka · 02/10/2023 16:36

OP, you probably caught her at a bad moment. If you've asked in the past whether the chucks bother them and they said no, then leave out some eggs, let them know you're planning to add sandbags/moss/whatever to reduce the flow across and crack on with your day. Just figure out a way to reduce it happening rather than fretting of what they think of you!

TakesTheCake · 02/10/2023 16:37

Frequency actually the chicken poo burns it and there are brown patches because of that. Rotted chicken poo is good but not fresh. We don’t do anything to the lawn except mow it.🤷‍♀️ We don’t water it as I figure the rain will always do that and it goes green again quick enough even when it goes brown in summer. I think maybe it is luck because I’m really putting no effort in! I’m fussy about my new(ish) patio that cost me an arm and a leg, but not bothered about the grass! I wish I could offer advice for your lawn but I don’t know much about it.

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autumnpleasestay · 02/10/2023 16:40

She overreacted, but I do see why she might find that annoying, and even if she claims the chickens don't bother her, she might still not like the idea of diluted chicken poo washing into her garden.

In any case, if you plan to do something to block the gap under the fence or provide a barrier on your side, I'd put that in the note. The gift of eggs and the fact that you're taking action to reduce water coming through again should set things right.

Passepartoute · 02/10/2023 16:42

Can you put in some sort of channel so that the water goes away from their garden

loislovesstewie · 02/10/2023 16:47

Excellent! Bet the eggs are tasty!

Fleabane · 02/10/2023 16:49

I would put a soakaway in

Poppysmom22 · 02/10/2023 16:50

Sandbag the bottom of the fence noone wants water with poop washing into their garden

MilesAndMilesOfLights · 02/10/2023 16:53

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pictoosh · 02/10/2023 16:55

Well OP you have come to the right place...no doubt mumsnet will tell you how awful, inconsiderate, selfish and yes, anti-social you are as a neighbour...because water on the path is very serious issue.