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MIL refuses to stick to bedtimes

41 replies

Nogoldenrulebook · 30/09/2023 22:25

A bit of background info..
I have 2 DC, I work for the NHS, OH works away for weeks at a time with no set rotation. Due to a family friendly work policy, I have a set 12.5 hour Monday night shift a week so that I can make sure I have childcare when OH is away, as he sometimes leaves with 1 days notice.

Anyway, my MIL has my children overnight while I work - this was the least disruptive option for her and my children, considering the start/finish times of my shifts. She has done this for years, and has always ignored my rules - "I was a mum first... I've done my time of listening to other people's rules... I make my own rules" etc. She always wants to be the saviour/fun adult. An example, during mealtimes, if my children don't want to eat their dinner, but I am attempting a negotiation with them, she will plonk a plate of toast down in front of them and swipe their dinner away, without even a word to me. Very annoying, I have bitten my tongue many times to save arguments. She also used to put DS to bed around 10pm at just 2years old when she had him before DD came along. She would completely ignore any routine I had, and it would make it tough the other nights when I was on my own. Fastforward a few years, he is now 4½ and in full time school, but she still puts him in bed at 9pm regardless of how many times I explain that he needs to be asleep by 7:30pm (DD goes to bed at the same time, but at least she naps in the day). He then can't catch up on his sleep for days, and is a total nightmare because he is overtired from 5pm every day, which is really tough when I'm alone for weeks at a time. I have tried, OH says he has also tried, to explain the importance of him getting an early night but she just doesn't listen, and will often roll her eyes at me. Last week, she took them out for a walk and didn't get home until 7pm, then put them in the bath, then took them back downstairs for a toast picnic on the sofa while they watched a 30 minute TV programme, before finally taking them up to bed for a story. Problem is, I need her! Without her, I will struggle with childcare for such long hours, and she knows it. But my son is suffering, and sooner or later his schooling will suffer too. But I don't know how I can do anything more, when I'm not physically in the house and I've been trying for years to get her to respect the most basic of parenting rules I ask of her. Sticking to bedtime routine - bath, story, asleep by 7:30pm, and once they're upstairs for the night, they don't go back down, is all I ask. AIBU as she's doing me a favour? Are my rules really asking too much?

If you've made it this far through my ramble, thank you!

OP posts:
nutbrownhare15 · 30/09/2023 22:50

You asked her to do the childcare so she wouldn't be offended, obviously she will be offended if you find someone else. I suppose you have to decide whether this issue is important enough to rock the boat. Overall moving forward it does make sense to focus on the needs of your kids rather than what your mil wants.

caban · 30/09/2023 22:52

Do you actually have another option for childcare?
Are night nannies or childminders who do overnights available/affordable to you?
Can you change your shifts or job?

Hankunamatata · 30/09/2023 22:52

Change your mon night shift to a Friday so kids can play sleep catch up a bit over weekend?

justasmalltownmum · 30/09/2023 23:18

If she wasn't here, what would you do?

Blondeshavemorefun · 30/09/2023 23:39

Jeez that's late

But

It's one night

Early to bed like 6pm on Tuesday

Or you pay for someone to stay at yours

MaryJanesonabreak · 30/09/2023 23:44

Even if your husband is in the forces is he considering the effect his absences are causing his family? Does he have an end date for these extended periods away? Because he’s not a single man anymore, he’s got a family now.

junebirthdaygirl · 30/09/2023 23:46

All dc are wrecked when they start school so his tiredness may be more down to this. Could he have a little nap after school , maybe lying on the couch with a quite programme. My ds always did this after school in his first few weeks.
If he gets an early night every other night including at the weekend he should be fine soon when he adjusts to school. Having your mil minding them is so handy l would just suffer on as it suits in so many ways.

cadburyegg · 30/09/2023 23:50

OP this isn't what you want to hear but you need to find another solution. I know you say you haven't got a choice but if she suddenly became ill then you'd have to figure something else out.

If she's been like this for years she isn't going to change. In fact it'll probably get worse as she gets older.

Even without the late bedtimes I'd resent the fact that she seems to like being in this position and having power over you. Weird attitude to have.

The current situation is actually hugely disruptive to your kids.

You can't change people but you can change the situation, whether it be a different job or paying someone else. Easier said than done I know.

I think the only way parents can work unsociable hours is if they have a partner who doesn't work unsociable hours. You don't have that

TomatoSandwiches · 30/09/2023 23:56

Why are you worried about offending her she obviously doesn't give two figs if she offends you by ignoring a very reasonable bedtime request.

sprigatito · 01/10/2023 00:11

NewPinkJacket · 30/09/2023 22:28

Anyway, my MIL has my children overnight while I work - this was the least disruptive option for her and my children

No, the least disruptive option for her would be to not have them at all.

The kids are with gran, they know that gran does things differently.

Leave her be, she's doing things her way because they suit her, just like you do things your way to suit you.

She's also undermining OP in front of the children, as the mealtime incident shows. She knows full well what she's doing and it's wrong.

I would make other arrangements for childcare, and make it crystal clear to her that if she wants to see them she needs to observe some (basic, obvious) ground rules. Rule number one: she is grandma, not mum, and she doesn't undermine or overrule mum. Ever. She's brought up her children and now she needs to let OP and her son bring up theirs.

YeahNoYeah · 01/10/2023 00:12

For the help she's giving I would just accept this. 9pm isn't insanely late, and it's a little adventure at Nanny's.

Throughabushbackwards · 01/10/2023 00:13

Like pp suggested, can you move your work day from Monday to Friday? Then he'll have the weekend to catch up his sleep.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 01/10/2023 00:14

An example, during mealtimes, if my children don't want to eat their dinner, but I am attempting a negotiation with them, she will plonk a plate of toast down in front of them and swipe their dinner away, without even a word to me

Why are you both there at mealtimes? Just get her to come for the time you need to leave. Nothing she is doing is unsafe, it's just different to how you do it. And it's been 3 weeks. It needs time to settle in.

NoSquirrels · 01/10/2023 00:17

Your choices are

Change your job/shifts.
Change your childcare.

That’s it. You can’t change her - you’ve begged, she doesn’t care.

WandaWonder · 01/10/2023 00:23

NewPinkJacket · 30/09/2023 22:28

Anyway, my MIL has my children overnight while I work - this was the least disruptive option for her and my children

No, the least disruptive option for her would be to not have them at all.

The kids are with gran, they know that gran does things differently.

Leave her be, she's doing things her way because they suit her, just like you do things your way to suit you.

Absolutely this, we handed our baby (now teenager) to our parents and left them to it if we did not trust them 100% they would not be looking after them

They do what they do and we do our routine

Bex5490 · 01/10/2023 09:45

My mum doesn’t listen to a word I say about routines and tbh I wouldn’t expect her to. All of the guidelines we have as mums now are totally different to what they were told to do so they just go off what they did!

The kids might be a bit sleepy but she’s not doing any long term damage. But if it is having a really detrimental effect then get another babysitter. You only have 2 options: deal with it or change childcare 🤷🏽‍♀️

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