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To give nephew's pregnant gf a home?

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Brianisanaughtyboy · 30/09/2023 18:53

When lots of people say you're being unreasonable there's a good chance you are isn't there? But I don't think I am so need some opinions...

(names are all fake of course) My in-laws consist of FIL, MIL, DH's sister Anna, her husband Alan and their 2 sons Mike (16) and Matt (9). DH and I have one daughter, aged 19, who currently lives half at home and half in halls (uni is too far to comfortably come back every day but near enough to come back almost every Friday-Sunday and holidays, which she prefers for a bit of home life). We live about 3 hours (if traffic is good!) from all the in laws who live close to each other.

A few months ago there was a big blow up as it came out that Mike's girlfriend, Maya, was a few months pregnant (I'm unclear whether any of the parents knew they were sleeping together but it's hardly relevant here). Mike had broken up with her before everyone else knew, he'd said at the time they were having too many arguments but obviously now it looks like he was scared of having a baby to deal with, which I can't say I blame him for as his parents are incredibly selfish and tried their best to teach him to be.

I know nothing of Maya's parents or family but apparently they told her to 'get rid or get out' so Maya thought her and Mike should try and get a housing association flat, see if they could get min wage jobs and co-parent (but not get back together). Mike was not keen, he wants to do a-levels then uni and talked about not wanting a baby with someone he's not together with, he thought they should have the baby adopted and his parents, DH's sister and BIL, were talking seriously about adopting/fostering the baby themselves, without Maya basically.

Maya pretty much flipped at this, hasn't been aggressive to them or anything but has clearly said she doesn't want to lose her baby, doesn't want them taking over etc. In-laws are universally unhappy about this, saying they're too young and the whole family should have a say over their granddaughter/greatgranddaughter.

We knew Maya a little from family visits etc, not well though, but after hearing what was going on (I mean in weeks of conversations and developments, not an instant knee jerk thing) we offered to let her stay with us for a couple of weeks over the summer for a break from everything (in-laws said Maya was talking about moving out from her family because of all this and sleeping at friends houses so we thought we'd be a safer bet). We didn't specifically want to get involved for ourselves but couldn't stand the sound of how bad everything was going. We had a spare bedroom, I've just had to move my office now into a corner of the dining room.

At first in-laws were over the moon and thought we were wonderful for putting her up so 'the kids' could have some space from each other and think about things (and they could carry on working on Maya to let them foster the baby!). We genuinely didn't push to get any more involved but Maya turned out to be lovely and, unprompted, talked to us and DD a lot, being honest about not massively wanting to be a parent right now but feeling as though it was a done deal now and she just wants to do the best to bring up the baby herself (including Mike of course but not giving the baby up). We let Maya stay another week while she tried to sort out what to do next, after her parents got social services involved to 'bring her back' but they haven't done much so far and say they don't have immediate concerns but are referring to either a social worker or a family support service (the worker that visited was as clear as fog!).

Maya was intending to go home and ask SS to help her get her own home but, after discussing things, DH and I offered to let her stay with us as we have the room, seem to get on ok, and said we'll review everything once the baby is a few months old (due in 5-6 weeks now) to give her more time to sort herself out, get benefits etc (we also discussed with DD who is fine with it all). We're genuinely not trying to 'fill an empty nest' but it's just worked out well that we have more space now DD is not home as much.

It might sound like a crazy idea and I would have said that too a year ago but it just felt right when it came to it and we'll review things as we go.

Maya accepted, her parents seemed relieved that she's not their problem to be honest which is awful. The in-laws though absolutely hit the roof. They've said this is all my doing even though DH made the decision too, that I'm a terrible person, I'm keeping Mike's child from him and their grandchild from them, I don't know what I'm doing, I'm trying to break up the family etc. They won't outright say it but they've made it extremely obvious they don't like us being in the way of their plan to look after the baby. We even asked if they'd want to put Maya up but apparently they have plenty of room for a baby but couldn't have Maya staying as it 'would invite more trouble', 'wouldn't be fair to Mike' etc etc!

They never come to see us and we were only planning to go to visit them at Christmas (already were slightly low contact with them before all this) but apparently it's our fault they won't see the baby as much as they want.

Apart from pretty much living in a Jeremy Kyle episode at this point, are DH and I in the wrong at all?

OP posts:
Poppysmom22 · 30/09/2023 20:10

How frightening for Maya. You are absolutely doing the right thing giving her the space and safety she needs to have her baby. Your in-laws are hideous.

Brianisanaughtyboy · 30/09/2023 20:12

Jl2014 · 30/09/2023 20:01

they sound like absolute assholes. Basically they’re upset that you have given this girl a safe option to keep and look after her own baby which is in the best interests of both of them but prevents the in-laws from removing the baby from its mother. Jesus Christ. The people that I read about on here make my head spin. I hope you continue to support her. you sound like good people.

This is definitely it, they're upset we've been able to get in the way and support her instead of leaving her at their mercy, if her family aren't much use, and it's not as though she's got a circle of mum friends to help her.

They're also very materialistic, MIL was upset in the past that we bought our first house (cheap doer-upper) before Alan & Anna bought their first house because it's regularly implied they are better than us because they earn more and are more image conscious so must be better. It's not how we see it but I can see how they think we've unfairly stolen something that was 'supposed' to come to Anna. The baby even looks as though it'll be a girl too (although I know the dangly bits can hide on scans) which is even worse as Anna hasn't got a girl in her set yet and we have 🙄The more I talk about them the more I think Maya will be the more mature parent!

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Vinrouge4 · 30/09/2023 20:12

You sound really lovely people xx

Brianisanaughtyboy · 30/09/2023 20:17

Vinrouge4 · 30/09/2023 20:12

You sound really lovely people xx

Thank you so much, and everyone that said similar, I hope people don't think I started the thread for praise 😊I suppose also I know how hard it was being 23 when DD was born so couldn't turn a blind eye to someone struggling even more.

Tbh I don't think we're even having to be that selfless, it turns out Maya cleans and does laundry without being asked, I'm hoping she rubs off a bit on DD!!

OP posts:
jswawsn · 30/09/2023 20:27

You are lovely people, thank God for people like you.

Your in laws are disgusting.

Good luck to you, and Maya.

Throckmorton · 30/09/2023 20:52

Good on you, and on Maya! Just a thought - she might be wise to try to breastfeed, as I get the impression from stuff I've read on here that that limits the ability of nefarious in laws to claim they must be allowed hours/days of contact without the mum there.

catsnore · 30/09/2023 20:57

Sounds like you are doing a very good thing.

Word of warning: Had a similar-ish situation happen in my family. The boy's family took the girl to court to try and get custody/ visiting rights etc etc. She tried to solve through meditation which he agreed to, then suddenly backed out of that and it went to proper court. Over two years of negotiations and reviews and so on. They never got the ridiculous things they asked for but it cost a lot and obvs created a lot of heartache. Maya should get legal advice to avoid this situation if possible!

UpaladderwatchingTV · 01/10/2023 13:46

Another one backing your actions to the hilt OP, I definitely would have done the same. Maya is VERY lucky to have met you, and to have you in her life. As other's have advised, I would strongly recommend that she DOESN'T name the lad on the birth certificate, and definitely don't use his surname. If he doesn't want the baby now, then in Maya's shoes, I would do everything in my power to stop him ever having access to him/her, although it seems clear that it's his parents who want the baby, and not him.

Just an aside, and I'm sure you already do, please make sure that you praise Maya for any assistance she gives unprompted around the house, as this will help make her feel grown up and useful, which is important now that she's expecting, and is going to have to grow up faster than perhaps she would have done before all this happened.

It sounds like you and your DH well well advised to move away from the rest of the family if these are the sort of people they are. Be proud of yourselves, you're doing a wonderful thing, and please wish Maya well from me, and all the other Mum's who have commented on your post, as I'm sure I speak for everyone in that respect.

Tinkerbyebye · 01/10/2023 14:00

You are being extremely kind to your nephews ex, far more than the rest of your in laws who have been awful

Personally I would be stepping back from the in-laws, sod Christmas your husband can pop and see them if he wishes, I would be staying at home

Sceptre86 · 01/10/2023 14:02

You've unnecessarily inserted yourself into drama that has nothing to do with your family. How long will she be able to live with you and what will you do if it doesn't work out well? You aren't her parents or even her family. Who will buy her stuff for herself and baby, feed and clothe them? Will you do so indefinitely, what if you don't want to, your financial circumstances change etc. How will you set boundaries? If she decides she wants to go to college will you pay for childcare or offer that yourself? How will you seek to support Maya to support herself?

I don't think you have done a bad thing, it clearly comes from a good place. You have to be aware though that living with a newborn and supporting a young, first time parent that is not your own child will not be easy and may end up being a more daunting task than you had first realised. As long as you go into it with your eyes wide open you could make a positive difference to her life at a time where those she should be relying on have failed her.

jeaux90 · 01/10/2023 14:25

You've done a really kind thing.

You've provided her with a safe place and breathing space, basically enabled her to have choices.

The vile ILs were trying to corner her into a decision which is disgraceful.

Brocollimatilda · 01/10/2023 14:36

You’ve done a good thing. We’ve given a non-relation who needed somewhere a home (he comes with a different set of complications) & a lot of people have been weirdly negative about it. I find it an odd thing for others to have an opinion on really as it makes no difference to their life & it’s working well for all of us. I think some people maybe like very ordered lives. Or maybe they don’t understand that these things aren’t one way and the friendships and relationships that develop are two way things - it isn’t all going in one direction.

It sounds like it is working well for you all & as long as that continues ignore everyone else. And if things change in the future and it stops working so well and she moves on, you gave her a home when she needed one - and that’s a good thing. It’s a kind and loving thing to do.

LadyShimura · 01/10/2023 14:47

I'm glad this girl has people on her side, ready to back her. She's been let down by so many people.

I would advise that Maya register the baby alone so Mike isnt on the birth certificate. He wants the parental responsibility, he'll have to apply for it.

Wehavealaughdontwe · 01/10/2023 14:55

As someone who had a baby very young, I am so grateful there are people like you and your DH in the world

HellNoBedBug · 01/10/2023 15:02

You sound absolutely lovely and Maya will be so grateful for you and all you did and always remember. Her own parents have kicked her out and her in laws are trying to steal her baby and she had no one to fight her corner.

Again thank you on her behalf

HellNoBedBug · 01/10/2023 15:03

Encourage her that she doesn’t have to let them have overnights etc with out her the first few months whilst she’s bonding. Dad can come to yours to see and bond with baby so the I laws don’t get to play. Of course they get no say as grandparents

gotomomo · 01/10/2023 15:03

I would like others suggest she registers the baby in her name only, her last name (Mike can apply to add his later) and breastfeeding means no extended day visits or overnights are sanctioned by the courts in case they want to cause trouble. Unfortunately it's going to be hard for her but her best bet is to continue in education, she can get support for childcare costs.

Ohhelpicantthinkofaname · 01/10/2023 15:16

You’re not at all unreasonable to support a young woman in need and give her the best chance of doing well by her baby.

when it’s born I’d be careful around visits. Tell your in laws that Mike is welcome to come to yours to visit the baby as often as he would like and that his parents and grandparent are welcome to, but that the baby will not be able to stay with them until maya feels comfortable with over night visits. tbh the baby could be well over a year old by that point. Don’t be a barrier, but don’t let them dominate.

DdraigGoch · 01/10/2023 15:30

What does Mike have to say about all of this? From what I am reading his unhinged parents/grandmother are doing all of the talking on his behalf. What does he want? Does he want parental responsibility? Does he want to visit? Does he want nothing at all?

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