To expect to be paid for sick leave?

[CountessVonHamburger]

Started a new job in April, bit of a mistake as it wasn’t what I was led to believe and I could see it was a pretty toxic environment from the first morning when my colleague collected me from reception and stopped on the stairs to tell me all about it and that she hated it there 😕

There were arguments over who was going to train me (in my earshot) and I was basically expected to get on with work I had absolutely no training for. Manager was not based at the office and would take weeks to respond to queries. It was an utter shitshow of the like I’d never experienced before.

Anyway I had an illness so I was signed off for a few weeks. I decided I couldn’t go back and was then signed off for a month due to stress. I gave my notice to my manager so termination date would be the date my fit note expired.

Manager responded that I only needed to give a week’s notice as I was still in my probationary period and she said she’d put my leaving date as 1st September which was only 4 days later.

I queried this as contract states a month’s notice required for employees even during probationary period. HR confirmed this and manager apologised.

I was not sent a payslip this month (accrued holiday owed as well) or paid anything so again queried this with manager. No response but money was paid into my account the next day. I rang payroll as it was a much lower amount that I was expecting to find that my manager had left my termination date as the 1st September!

I should have paid full pay. Manager has not responded to further emails querying this. I actually need the money as well.

AIBU to think this is wrong?

PP was referring to full sick pay, not SSP.

Don't forget the "few weeks" she had off before that month due to "an illness"!

OP I came on this thread ready to advise about your rights but it sounds like you've had what you should and honestly you're trying to rinse them. You've done 3 months work (at most) and had 2 months off what on earth are you expecting? I get that you don't like your manager but you're behaving in a very entitled manner and why on Earth would you get the full notice period? Usually during probation notice is shorter and excessive sickness can be classed as misconduct which also voids the notice period. Leave these poor people alone! I hope they've told your new employer how much sick leave you took when they do your reference so they can go into this with their eyes open.

accrued holiday owed as well
LMAO

I actually need the money as well.
Then turn up to work. The universe doesn't owe you a living when you CBA to turn in.

If you think you’re entitled to it, take it up with HR not your manager. Do you have your contract? I don’t think that much sick pay would be automatic.

looking at a local council’s sick pay entitlement which I assume would be one of the more generous that allows for 1 month full pay in year one with an additional two weeks half pay after 4 months service.

so on your situation I would assume the following
2 (???) weeks full pay for your illness

2 weeks full at the start of your stress related absence

maybe or maybe not a further two weeks half pay depending on whether you had 4 months service when your sick leave started.

SSP is paid for 28 weeks from the 4th day of absence. It will be paid even after any contractural pay has run out (up to the 28 weeks) so you are likely to still have SSP entitlement.

You will need to look closely at all the dates, start date, sickness dates, etc and then compare this with the policy IN DETAIL week by week accounting for the already agreed amended leaving date.

you can then show HR if you think you are entitled to more then they have paid and have evidence to back it up

Is there a staff handbook you can check?

It’s incredibly unlikely full sick pay would kick in the second you become employed let alone during a probation period. Mostly it takes a year or so of service to be eligible for additional employer benefits like sick pay and enhanced maternity.

Full sick pay kicks in after a certain time in a new workplace

Have you got an update OP