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AIBU to think this is harsh

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Aglassaday · 29/09/2023 19:11

DD15 y11 struggles with generalised anxiety, is currently on medication and has recently had Cbt which has helped but wasn’t necessarily for her. She struggles a lot in school mentally, although has a nice small friendship group and friends in every class, her anxiety ruins it completely. She has self harmed for many years and continues to do so and is being supported through Ed psychologist in school, form tutor (who is amazing) and by myself and DH and her friends.

In school however, she can be a bit naughty, nothing awful and behaviour at her school is particularly bad, chairs being thrown at teachers that sort of thing, whereas DD is just a bit chatty and sometimes unfocused and the usual rolled up skirt, jewellery etc.

Despite outstanding school attendance, she does struggle attending and staying in lessons due to her frequent anxiety and panic attacks and walks out of lessons etc hyperventiling and crying and being under general distress. This is expected of her anxiety and Is currently under ADHD and ASD testing too. Some issues have been made with teaching staff and subsequently brought to her year team.

Her year leader however, despite being happy for the naughty chair throwing kids to come to her and deal with them all the time, making jokes with them and sharing sweets, I feel is being a bit harsh on DD. She had told DD to sort it out and has asked “have you tried staying in lesson?” When it is clear DD only left because she was having an intense panic attack.

Today, after going to year leader unable to stay in her English lesson due to a servere panic attack, DD went to her year leader, following the advice she was told by YL to come to her if she can’t stay in a lesson due to anxiety.

YL then decided she has had enough and even though DD followed what she was told to do, started lashing out at DD saying it’s not fair every other student has to go to lesson but DD doesn’t go (due to her high functioning anxiety). Bear in mind a group of popular naughty kids who had been kicked out their classroom were sat in YL’s classroom laughing and sat on their phones eating sweets. YL then proceeded to say INFRONT of the other kids, I don’t think schools for you, you need to consider dropping out!

DD, already upset burst into another round of tears and cried again when she came home. She has strong plans for college, university and career and is predicted to get all 11 GCSEs at grades 7-9

AIBU to think her year leader is being too harsh and to be upset by this?

Please comment your thoughts and be kind with your comments

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Daffodil18 · 29/09/2023 20:40

Ive worked in a school which sounds similar. The kids throwing chairs probably have terrible lives and no prospect for a career. That’ll be why they are in that office as a safety precaution for other children. Also in the school there were some who keep coming out of class for anxiety. It’s very disruptive for others and the child.

TeenLifeMum · 29/09/2023 21:03

@Aglassaday my personal approach re team leader would be to talk honestly with your dd (helpful to build trust at this age) and say you’re not happy with the teacher’s approach but it’s useful life skill to manage working with people who are annoying/approach things differently/have different views and it’s important to still be kind and respectful. Maybe chose a safe person dd can get support from?

i have a 15 yo who is an introvert, worrier and gets anxious. We’ve managed to get her in a good place but honestly it could have gone either way and there’s lots of gentle nudging along the way. I’m a confident extrovert who loves being surrounded by people and noise but dd gets sensory overload. It’s been a massive learning curve for me because she’s very different to me but the main thing we have is fantastic open dialogue so keep talking.

one thing dd did was write her worries in a book and leave it outside her bedroom door at night for me to read (what she wanted to share with me not like a diary) and we’d talk about it the next day. I don’t tell her how to fix things but ask her questions to think about the bigger picture. I am wishing this year away and hoping her results reflect her hard work.

Aglassaday · 29/09/2023 21:38

@TeenLifeMum i love the book idea will definitely be using that, thank you so much and for your kind advice, it is so appreciated.

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AtomicBlondeRose · 29/09/2023 23:48

It would be good to know what the year leader actually said as no teacher would ever even use the phrase “dropping out” to a student as it’s not a thing! I would also hope that no non-teaching pastoral staff would ever say that but honestly I couldn’t rule it out. But it’s wildly inappropriate. I teach in a college and it would only be in the very direst of circumstances that I would even suggest that college might not be the best place for a student. Really we want them to stay and do their best for as long as they can.

Boomboom22 · 29/09/2023 23:53

Is there a head of ks4 above the hoy? If not their slt, ask for a meeting.

Aglassaday · 30/09/2023 09:59

@Boomboom22 in DD’s school they don’t have heads of key stage, only year leaders, deputy year leaders etc

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MargaretThursday · 30/09/2023 10:26

I think you need to talk to the teacher and find out what is going on.

It may be that she does need to get out. It may be that she thinks the only option is getting out and they are trying to help her find ways round it.

Sometimes you can give too much leeway which can be ultimately unhelpful.
One of my dc's friends had an exit pass. It started so he could get out when he needed to, and he stayed in most lessons, and came out occasionally. He was using the pass well.
Then he started using it to leave any lessons he didn't like-and he was quite open about it.
Then he started leaving pretty much every lesson. My dc tried to help him. They said to him that they'd ask if the seating plan could be changed so they sat next to him and would help him. The chap in question replied "why should I bother staying in lessons if I don't have to? They're boring".
Shortly afterwards he dropped out of school and didn't go back.

You need to talk to the school and try and help her get strategies to manage it too.

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