Is it a crime to PRETEND you’ve been to the police and got an incident number?

Madeupballs · 2023-09-28T19:18:12+00:00

Just that… someone trying to intimidate me. Says he has made a report to the police and they have given him a crime number and that he has (from the goodness of his heart) asked them not to contact me directly. But has supplied a crime number which on closer examination is made up. All made up, in fact. is that unlawful? Sort of misrepresenting the police?

AtrociousCircumstance · 28/09/2023 20:19

Is it an attempt at blackmail? Is he trying to manipulate you?

NoodleNuts · 28/09/2023 20:19

No - he is isn't misrepresenting the police, he's just lying.

crowsfeet57 · 28/09/2023 20:19

Report him to 101. The police will tak e a very dim view of this.

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Twistyripple · 28/09/2023 20:20

What a bloody weirdo

singingpenny · 28/09/2023 20:20

No, it’s just a lie. People can lie if they want. Different if it becomes a threat, then it’s assault.

purpleme12 · 28/09/2023 20:22

No it's not a crime.

Although you could always call the police to check if they've done this or not.
Then you could say to the person that they're clearly lying

plumtreebroke · 28/09/2023 20:24

Ask the police to confirm and tell you what report was all about, if it's made up I'm sure they will not be best pleased.

Edit: Could be stalking or something.

muddyford · 28/09/2023 20:24

No, it's not a crime. I pretended my working spaniel was a police drug dog and yelled it at some morons with out of control Border collies

NalafromtheLionKing · 28/09/2023 20:27

Probably not. But the police are hardly going to issue an incident number and then agree not to follow it up with the ‘perpetrator’ (this guy sounds a bit thick TBH).

You haven’t said how he is trying to intimidate you but, depending upon what he is doing (harassing?), he could be the one committing a crime here.

purpleme12 · 28/09/2023 20:28

NalafromtheLionKing · 28/09/2023 20:27

Probably not. But the police are hardly going to issue an incident number and then agree not to follow it up with the ‘perpetrator’ (this guy sounds a bit thick TBH).

You haven’t said how he is trying to intimidate you but, depending upon what he is doing (harassing?), he could be the one committing a crime here.

To be fair (depending on the crime I guess) they can do exactly this. If you don't want them to follow it up they don't have to.

purpleme12 · 28/09/2023 20:30

OP have you actually done something you shouldn't have?
Or is this person lying about what's supposedly happened?

Original poster

Madeupballs · 29/09/2023 00:06

This is my div of an ex. He won’t pay some of the expenses ordered in the consent order and just ignores all attempts to communicate, so I said I would be forced to send to his company address if his home address/email didn’t elicit a response. So he wrote to say he had complained to the police about “harassment” and they had given him an incident number. Yet it turns out that this isn’t an incident number at all. <chinny reckon>

so this was meant to intimidate me. Is this a crime? - pretending to have involved the police when actually he hadn’t.

OP posts:

purpleme12 · 29/09/2023 00:11

Oh ok.

But no it's not a crime

Lavender14 · 29/09/2023 00:18

Madeupballs · 29/09/2023 00:06

This is my div of an ex. He won’t pay some of the expenses ordered in the consent order and just ignores all attempts to communicate, so I said I would be forced to send to his company address if his home address/email didn’t elicit a response. So he wrote to say he had complained to the police about “harassment” and they had given him an incident number. Yet it turns out that this isn’t an incident number at all. <chinny reckon>

so this was meant to intimidate me. Is this a crime? - pretending to have involved the police when actually he hadn’t.

Has he been abusive in the past?

If you got the right informed officer they might see that as an attempt at coercion, intimidation and blackmail but I think it would need to follow a pattern of similar behaviour intimidating you for them to see it as a crime. I'd speak to your solicitor to be honest and let them take over all contact between you so you don't need to deal with him directly. If he does stupid things like that then your solicitor can follow it up on your behalf.

Slightlyoff · 29/09/2023 00:19

crowsfeet57 · 28/09/2023 20:19

Report him to 101. The police will tak e a very dim view of this.

What evidence do you have to back up this assertion because you're talking nonsense.

OP no crime has been committed. He's just trying to shut you down.

WandaWonder · 29/09/2023 00:20

crowsfeet57 · 28/09/2023 20:19

Report him to 101. The police will tak e a very dim view of this.

What law has been broken?

Dustpantsandbush · 29/09/2023 00:34

Tell him you contacted the police to discuss the allegation and they’ve told you no report exists.

rubydoobydoo · 29/09/2023 00:42

It's not a crime. Unfortunately being a dick isn't a crime - I sometimes wish it was!

Redglitter · 29/09/2023 00:45

Probably not. But the police are hardly going to issue an incident number and then agree not to follow it up with the ‘perpetrator’ (this guy sounds a bit thick TBH)

Actually they will & do. Thats pretty normal if someone reports an incident - like the famous MN log it with 101 - but they dont want it pursued or its not a crime. Its used a lot for things like neighbour complaints where someone is building a picture for the council etc. All it means is someone has phoned 101 & their call is recorded on the system

Report him to 101. The police will tak e a very dim view of this

Theyre really not going to be bothered. It's not an offence. They're not going to follow it up

Redglitter · 29/09/2023 00:46

rubydoobydoo · 29/09/2023 00:42

It's not a crime. Unfortunately being a dick isn't a crime - I sometimes wish it was!

Ohhhhh if only 😂😂

NumberTheory · 29/09/2023 03:43

At a push I suppose it might be fraud - a misrepresentation intended to stop you from collecting money due to you. But I think it’s probably a bit too far removed to be meet the definition.

Fraud Act 2006

An Act to make provision for, and in connection with, criminal liability for fraud and obtaining services dishonestly.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/35

HelpMeGetThrough · 29/09/2023 05:16

crowsfeet57 · 28/09/2023 20:19

Report him to 101. The police will tak e a very dim view of this.

They can take as dim a view as they like, if no law has been broken, the friend can tell them to sod off.

I wouldn't bother "reporting to 101", you can never get through anyway. Completely useless.

Ascendant15 · 29/09/2023 05:32

Madeupballs · 29/09/2023 00:06

This is my div of an ex. He won’t pay some of the expenses ordered in the consent order and just ignores all attempts to communicate, so I said I would be forced to send to his company address if his home address/email didn’t elicit a response. So he wrote to say he had complained to the police about “harassment” and they had given him an incident number. Yet it turns out that this isn’t an incident number at all. <chinny reckon>

so this was meant to intimidate me. Is this a crime? - pretending to have involved the police when actually he hadn’t.

But equally, if he is refusing to pay ordered expenses, writing to his employers address is also not the way to go. So there a bit of 6 of one and half a dozen of the other here. He may be a dick, and he should pay what is owed, but you need to go through the courts if he owes money. The only reason to threaten to go through his company is to intimidate - which is exactly what you are complaining about him doing.

PsychoHotSauce · 29/09/2023 05:42

Actually, id consider this coercive control, which IS a crime. Using lies and using the authority of the police to manipulate you into not pursuing this.

I actually would call 101 with the "crime number" and fill them in.